Is it supposed to be this bad

[Fallenbox]

Hi, i'm not into the game from that much time but since the start i couldn't stop noticing how bad it is, the shooting feels so weird, sometimes it takes 3 SVD bullets to kill someone while a random pistol bullet can kill you instantly, not even talking about how unrealistic bullet travel speed is, feels like an airsoft BBs even from few meters, the suppression sistem is like having seizure, i always thought it was meant to be hard to shoot, not preventing it totally. Also the maps are bigs and yet so linear, leading you always to the same path but the worst thing it comes to my mind are the buggy and glitchy movements, sometimes climbing over a fenches doesn't even work and it brings me back, laying down or leaning makes my character glitchyng all over the place with sudden movements from the camera, running is a pain in the♥♥♥♥♥since you can get stoped by the enviorment itself, a little rock or a branch on the ground can prevent you totally from moving forcing you to climb that 10cm tall obstacle, same as shooting from cover, the icon says your barrel is shooting free but it's not counting the bad hitboxes from the cover so you end up shooting the rock anyway while you shouldn't. Also using a molotov create a bug in the spot you it landed, creating an invisible endless fire that kills every one it steps on.
So the game it's always been like this ? I know this game is a sequel of red orchestra 2 but it seems inferior to me under almost every aspect, even performance, stuttering is driving me away totally from the game.

[Ular]

No.

[chance]

I agree to an extent, RO2/RS in my opinion is still the better game. I still go back to that game from time to time. Looks like Rising Storm 2 lost its soul on the way, the immersion in RO2 cannot be beat

[KarmaM]

I mean, he's not wrong

[8-The-General-8]

I just don't get the "Return to Combat Area" thing.

You can't go ahead of your squad and capture enemy zones and yet your spawn points can somehow be camped to death.

Also, getting stuck in terrain is a real problem. Happens at least once a session and often in bushes on hills or near rocks for some reason.

Can't go prone in water at times. Seems to be ok in rice fields and some streams but not everywhere water related.

Are there hacks for this game as I get spotted even though camoflagued immediately around trees? Instashotted.

Can't lean around cover. Feels like gun railing when you use the 'sideshift' key.

Tactical view does not show you crouching.

This game's mechanics remind me of America's Army at times for some reason.

Great game but needs some work.

Everything else the OP has suggested is what I am finding problematic too.

RO2 was a great game. I still play it sometimes, played it a lot before I got Arma3.

EDIT:

Also, bamboo and some bushes seem bulletproof... :S

Different shirts don't unlock until lvl 25? Is this a joke?

With the Deluxe edition can you just unlock everything the game states as such or is there a limit? I haven't unlocked anything DLC highlighted so far.

Otherwise, in lieu of all above, this is an ok game so far. However, it could be a tonne better!

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

It depends where you hit somebody.

Hitting somebody anywhere on the body with an SVD will kill them. But hitting the arms and legs will not. A lot of other games classify the "arms" as the body. This one doesn't. There's also critical zones such as the head, neck, heart, spine and femoral artery that people will die from in one shot regardless of the weapon. A bullet can pass through multiple hit zones. So an arm won't block a bullet. If a bullet hit someone's arm but these passes through the chest and heart the game picks the highest damaging hitbox and says that's what the bullet hit. So in this case it will count as a heart shot rather than an arm shot.

Also the people who are saying "I liked RO2 better" fail to realise that all the above criticism could easily be applied to RO2/RS. As the specific things the OP complained about are largely the same across both games. As the gist of it is related to ballistics, movement and collision. The only other things he added was molotov fire not replicating on everyone's screens and the height over bore detector being rather short range. Two things RO2/RS1 didn't even have feature wise.

["Bleh..Bleh..Bleh"]

Originally posted by =(e)= Lemonater47:

It depends where you hit somebody.

Hitting somebody anywhere on the body with an SVD will kill them. But hitting the arms and legs will not. A lot of other games classify the "arms" as the body. This one doesn't. There's also critical zones such as the head, neck, heart, spine and femoral artery that people will die from in one shot regardless of the weapon. A bullet can pass through multiple hit zones. So an arm won't block a bullet. If a bullet hit someone's arm but these passes through the chest and heart the game picks the highest damaging hitbox and says that's what the bullet hit. So in this case it will count as a heart shot rather than an arm shot.

Also the people who are saying "I liked RO2 better" fail to realise that all the above criticism could easily be applied to RO2/RS. As the specific things the OP complained about are largely the same across both games. As the gist of it is related to ballistics, movement and collision. The only other things he added was molotov fire not replicating on everyone's screens and the height over bore detector being rather short range. Two things RO2/RS1 didn't even have feature wise.

damn I like your motivation of explaining newbie. Give "Like" to you

[Hidden]

Originally posted by Fallenbox ITA:

Hi, i'm not into the game from that much time but since the start i couldn't stop noticing how bad it is, the shooting feels so weird, sometimes it takes 3 SVD bullets to kill someone while a random pistol bullet can kill you instantly, not even talking about how unrealistic bullet travel speed is, feels like an airsoft BBs even from few meters, the suppression sistem is like having seizure, i always thought it was meant to be hard to shoot, not preventing it totally. Also the maps are bigs and yet so linear, leading you always to the same path but the worst thing it comes to my mind are the buggy and glitchy movements, sometimes climbing over a fenches doesn't even work and it brings me back, laying down or leaning makes my character glitchyng all over the place with sudden movements from the camera, running is a pain in the♥♥♥♥♥since you can get stoped by the enviorment itself, a little rock or a branch on the ground can prevent you totally from moving forcing you to climb that 10cm tall obstacle, same as shooting from cover, the icon says your barrel is shooting free but it's not counting the bad hitboxes from the cover so you end up shooting the rock anyway while you shouldn't. Also using a molotov create a bug in the spot you launched, creating an invisible endless fire that kills every one it steps on.
So the game it's always been like this ? I know this game is a sequel of red orchestra 2 but it seems inferior to me under almost every aspect, even performance, stuttering is driving me away totally from the game.

Nah this game is a hot mess.

The stockholm syndrome for some of the veterans is real, but the proof is in the pudding.

The fact you still cant place traps without issue is absurd. there is no mechanic in this game that works well. My character still seems to do some funny cossack dance when traversing over materials.

Decided to stay away from all future tripwire products for how they handled not only the development, but some of their behavior in the forums.

Also, return to the combat area for georgina is straight up mentally deficient. There. I said it.

Wanted to back up that forum post as well lol

[Fallenbox]

Originally posted by Rogue Wolf:

Originally posted by Fallenbox ITA:

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Nah this game is a hot mess.

The stockholm syndrome for some of the veterans is real, but the proof is in the pudding.

The fact you still cant place traps without issue is absurd. there is no mechanic in this game that works well. My character still seems to do some funny cossack dance when traversing over materials.

Decided to stay away from all future tripwire products for how they handled not only the development, but some of their behavior in the forums.

Also, return to the combat area for georgina is straight up mentally deficient. There. I said it.

Wanted to back up that forum post as well lol

That's exactly what i thought while playing the other day, every time i tryied doing something it worked at half or not at all, hopefully i've got both Red orchestra and vietnam for free, i would have never spend money on stuff like this and i never will, i'm with you on that

[His Crackesty]

With some of this I agree. I generally don't have any hitbox problems but they've made the bullets less lethal meaning you'll get a bunch of assists.
The suppression system needs tuning. Haven't noticed anything about the bullet speed, I think any delay you'll notice there will be the ping.
Jumping over fences and laying down and aiming does bring some uneveness and bugs but I don't have any problems just running from place A to B. And yes the slightly too big hitbox can ♥♥♥♥ up shooting from cover/ground.
My performance is really even at a constant 60 fps (and my comp is old as ♥♥♥♥). You might wanna check your settings because I remember one giving me problems back in the days.

So yeah this game has some problems but it used to be way worse (in almost every way) and it's never been enough for me to not have fun because it has always functioned well with a fun core gameplay. This game never reached the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ levels of PUBG or H.U.N.T. when it comes to technical issues making it not fun to play for me.

[Loco]

It doesnt take 3 svd shots, thats just wrong.

[8-The-General-8]

Originally posted by Loco:

It doesnt take 3 svd shots, thats just wrong.

Last night this happened to me. 3 shots at a somewhat clueless player around 70M... He then looked around for me and saw me immediately firing into a bush. Wut?

Are there cheats for this game or not?

[Fallenbox]

Originally posted by 8-The-General-8:

Originally posted by Loco:

Last night this happened to me. 3 shots at a somewhat clueless player around 70M... He then looked around for me and saw me immediately firing into a bush. Wut?

Are there cheats for this game or not?

I was wondering that too, sometimes i get killed while camping in bush, in my spawn, behind a tree, laying down and not moving at all. I think the usual stuff you can find in any games should be avaiable in this one too, wall hacks, aimbot and things like these

[El Zorro]

I feel like melee weapons suffer from this as well, my attacks rarely kill.

-Z

[-SIBERIANWOLF-]

aaahh i dont know what to tell you have half the problems like you no lag on good server oke ping is saddly 80 like so if you one of the idiots playing on a server with +120 ping you dont get the basics of online gaming
the game has bugs the molotov is e.g. new implemented 2-3 weeks ago (will get fixed)
have no problems with shooting in stuff i played alot of games like this maybe this is the reason there are problematic situations but hey its just a game for 30$ (e.g. some rocks are bad and on some new maps the bamboo walls and rooftops have larg invisible wall in it. for me it sucks coz now every one cry becoz of it)
there are problems even more since update with the prone (maybe will get fixed)

the supression is too littel and yes it sucks this is intentionally its a core mechanic you would wine more if this is not in the game (also supression was much harder in Ro2)

large linear maps ?? you ever played supremacy (its not linear and it sucks abit ;-))

the linear thing is again intentionally again like in ro2 its attack and defend game mode

!oooh saddly i read just yet you didnt buy the games your self so you dont like it then leave and stop wine around! you are really a special troll

are there cheats? yes for every game on this planat there are some cheats ♥♥♥♥♥♥
and maybe i saw two cheater in 800h play time pfff

sorry but clear trolls

[Fallenbox]

Originally posted by -SIBERIANWOLF-:

aaahh i dont know what to tell you have half the problems like you no lag on good server oke ping is saddly 80 like so if you one of the idiots playing on a server with +120 ping you dont get the basics of online gaming
the game has bugs the molotov is e.g. new implemented 2-3 weeks ago (will get fixed)
have no problems with shooting in stuff i played alot of games like this maybe this is the reason there are problematic situations but hey its just a game for 30$ (e.g. some rocks are bad and on some new maps the bamboo walls and rooftops have larg invisible wall in it. for me it sucks coz now every one cry becoz of it)
there are problems even more since update with the prone (maybe will get fixed)

the supression is too littel and yes it sucks this is intentionally its a core mechanic you would wine more if this is not in the game (also supression was much harder in Ro2)

large linear maps ?? you ever played supremacy (its not linear and it sucks abit ;-))

the linear thing is again intentionally again like in ro2 its attack and defend game mode

!oooh saddly i read just yet you didnt buy the games your self so you dont like it then leave and stop wine around! you are really a special troll

are there cheats? yes for every game on this planat there are some cheats ♥♥♥♥♥♥
and maybe i saw two cheater in 800h play time pfff

sorry but clear trolls

You are the only moronic ♥♥♥♥♥ ass troll here, no one talked about high ping but bullet travel speed,"linear thing is intentionally" that does not prevent it from sucking, there are a tons of others bugs i left out instead of listing every single one here, also updates that instead of fixing them introduce new ones should not be OK in a game that is out of beta.
You saw only two cheater in 800 of hours because your special condition prevent your eyes to point on the same spot, get some help delusional nerd.