How the hell do you use the L1A1?

[Lep]

The recoil is just.. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Your iron sights go in sky, when you hold the trigger for longer than 3 second

[hobbicon]

you don't, you use the excellent SMGs instead.

[Assblaster]

>can't control the awesome power of real ♥♥♥♥♥♥ NATO

commie or europoor detected.

[Vasily Chuikov]

Hold the trigger? Do you mean the L2A1? The L1A1 is semi auto

[Lep]

Originally posted by Vasily Chuikov:

Hold the trigger? Do you mean the L1A2? The L1A1 is semi auto

I dunno. It looks like L1A1, but is automatic

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

Originally posted by LePreChaun.:

Originally posted by Vasily Chuikov:

Hold the trigger? Do you mean the L1A2? The L1A1 is semi auto

I dunno. It looks like L1A1, but is automatic

L2A1.

It's the british definition of an LMG. So it's rather light yet still fires the same thing as an M60.

The lighter the gun the harder it is to control the recoil.

[Vasily Chuikov]

Originally posted by LePreChaun.:

Originally posted by Vasily Chuikov:

Hold the trigger? Do you mean the L1A2? The L1A1 is semi auto

I dunno. It looks like L1A1, but is automatic

That's the L2A1. It's a support weapon. Use the bipod. It's not made to be fired from the shoulder, that's like firing an M60 from the shoulder and complaining about the recoil.

[Jonnydodger]

Originally posted by =(e)= Lemonater47:

Originally posted by LePreChaun.:

I dunno. It looks like L1A1, but is automatic

L2A1.

It's the british definition of an LMG. So it's rather light yet still fires the same thing as an M60.

The lighter the gun the harder it is to control the recoil.

Fun fact, the British never used the L2A1, only the Canadians and Australians (who designed it).
The British stuck with the much more effective L4 Bren.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

Originally posted by Jonnydodger:

Originally posted by =(e)= Lemonater47:

L2A1.

It's the british definition of an LMG. So it's rather light yet still fires the same thing as an M60.

The lighter the gun the harder it is to control the recoil.

Fun fact, the British never used the L2A1, only the Canadians and Australians (who designed it).
The British stuck with the much more effective L4 Bren.

Yes. I said "british definition" of an LMB. Which is why its along similar lines as the L4.

[Foltest]

The L1A1 also kicks like a mule.

[Frenchy56]

Originally posted by MacNille:

The L1A1 also kicks like a mule.

Yeah, kicks like a mule for the one on the receiving end as well.

[Justicier10-7]

Originally posted by Jonnydodger:

Fun fact, the British never used the L2A1, only the Canadians and Australians (who designed it).
The British stuck with the much more effective L4 Bren.

Curious, how was the L4 Bren much more effective than the L2A1?

[UniBaLL]

Originally posted by Vasily Chuikov:

Originally posted by LePreChaun.:

I dunno. It looks like L1A1, but is automatic

That's the L2A1. It's a support weapon. Use the bipod. It's not made to be fired from the shoulder, that's like firing an M60 from the shoulder and complaining about the recoil.

You have clearly never fired an M60 in real life. An M60 has very little recoil, due to the overall weigth, bolt weight and recoil spring rate. It is extremely accurate with little bullet spread, much better than represented in games. The M60 uses a reciprocating bolt, weapons that use a reciprocating bolt generally have less recoil than a locking bolt.

The L2A1 has a locking bolt and is lighter. M60 weighs 23 pounds, then 4 pounds for a 100 round belt, the L2A1 will have more recoild than an M60, simply due to weight alone, it is more than twice as lite. Your statement alludes to the M60 having more recoil, when that is simply not true, in RL

As for the game weapons, simply folding the bipod in, improves recoil control substantually when firing any of the machine guns with a bipod from the shoulder.

[Manperor of Mankind]

Originally posted by MasterSgtBates:

As for the game weapons, simply folding the bipod in, improves recoil control substantually when firing any of the machine guns with a bipod from the shoulder.

But why? Generally asking, I can't imagine having the bipod do that much of a difference.

[TEA.UP®IrishHitman79]

Originally posted by Justicier:

Originally posted by Jonnydodger:

Fun fact, the British never used the L2A1, only the Canadians and Australians (who designed it).
The British stuck with the much more effective L4 Bren.

Curious, how was the L4 Bren much more effective than the L2A1?

In every single way. L2A1 was useless... where to start?

First off the Bren was designed as a LMG from the get go. Not an oddball Bast&rd design.

1) It weighed much more, very smooth to fire less recoil. (7.62 rounds)
2) The Barrel could be swapped, and it was longer and better designed.
3) Its mag is fed from the top thus with gravity..
4) It was much more accurate as a LMG in support.
5) The Bren had a FAR better trigger also (imo)

Flaws with the L2A1.

First thing we noticed... A big 30rd mag from the bottom HA? It made firing from the prone a nightmare, and made you very exposed. The mag would also knock and get loose from hitting objects and cause it to stop taking rounds. And its still only 30rds...

It got too hot to soon for a LMG. Also the Bren design as an LMG had its issues too, it was done out by the GPMG even by the 50/60s.

Same goes for the BAR (Useless LMG) and M14E2 they look very cool tho.

Not to take from the (SLR/ L1A1/FAL or M14) grade A+ battle rifles.

[Jonnydodger]

Originally posted by Justicier:

Originally posted by Jonnydodger:

Fun fact, the British never used the L2A1, only the Canadians and Australians (who designed it).
The British stuck with the much more effective L4 Bren.

Curious, how was the L4 Bren much more effective than the L2A1?

Basically for the reasons illustrated above.
Though I would say the Bren was probably the best light machine gun (not counting GPMGs and other belt fed MGs) of it's time. The Bren stayed in service until the late 1980s in British use, which says something for it's effectiveness.