Add the stoner 63

[PeepeePounder]

Wouldent it be so cool if TW added the stoner 63 as a secondary option for the machine gunner for the USMC? If you read up about the stoner 63, you'll find out that the navy seals, and the usmc both used it. Gratned it was a rare gun, this would be complimented by the fact there is only 3 machine gun slots. TW has already done exclusive guns between the us army and the usmc, such as the m14 only being available to the us army, whilst the m40? (dont know the actual rifle name) is for the usmc in the marksman classes.

In short, they should give the USMC the stoner 63 as a machine gun class. Its an awesome gun that is never shown in games and would fit really well alongside the m60.

hopefully in a future update.

[Maki Nishikino]

That weapon was never used by the Marines if I recall and it's in Killing Floor 2.

[PeepeePounder]

it was look it up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoner_63

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by Coffee GS 1-3:

it was look it up.

Souce? I thought it was a SEAL only weapon.

[PeepeePounder]

just added a link. Im also aware its in kf2, but it should be in this over that.

[Kardoc Ragefury]

During 1967, the Stoner 63A system was field tested by Company L (Lima Company), 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division. Riflemen were issued the weapon in the Rifle configuration (in both 63 and 63A variants, designated XM22 and XM22E1 respectively), while officers and certain other personnel received the Carbine (XM23). The Automatic Rifle configuration was deployed on a limited basis in the squad automatic role, while Lima's weapons platoon received both the LMG and MMG configurations.[10]

This was all I could find on Marine use of the weapon.

[Big Duke]

enough with the stupid weapon requests.

it was TESTED by the Marines.one Marine company.. not used beyond a test period.

the only real use the Stoner saw was by the SEALs. I dont think Ive ever seen a pic of the SEALs using it in any configuration other than the LMG version either. These were in such low numbers that it doesnt make sense to suggest it for this game. Get over it already.

[static]

Originally posted by Coffee GS 1-3:

Wouldent it be so cool if TW added the stoner 63 as a secondary option for the machine gunner for the USMC?

No, please no. We already have nearly all of the general issue small arms represented for the factions in-game. ARVN and ANZAC will add even more, as will Main Force NVA with some heavier weapons, different roles or more destructive support options (if added).

I agree with what others have said; limited field testing by one company of Marines does not equal general issue.

The last thing we need is weapons like the Stoner or Swedish K that were exclusively issued to and used by SF teams who went into the field far away from any friendly forces. RS2 is depicting regular soldiers from conventional units. No SF weapons, please.

If the devs work out maps, tailor-made game modes and factions that actually manage to realistically encompass SF operations in Vietnam, I will welcome all the unicorn-level firearms they used. I honestly think this is unlikely to happen; RS2 just isn't the right game to depict wildly imbalanced game modes that would often revolve around ambushes of unsuspecting enemy, hiding/observation, etc. A "SOG" mode would be 5v54. SEALS would likely be 6-10v50 or so. Probably wouldn't be much fun to play outside of a very mature and organized community like Project Reality, Squad or ARMA.

[Rei]

I'd prefer to see a map with US special forces (XM177s and Stoner 63s maybe) vs idk whoever works really. That or the ARVN and ANZACs, think about the content those 2 factions would bring, all new customization options, new weapons, new commander abilities, plus the ARVN would probably bring back some old favorites like the M1 Garand and Thompson.

[PeepeePounder]

Originally posted by X-BigDukeSix:

enough with the stupid weapon requests.

it was TESTED by the Marines.one Marine company.. not used beyond a test period.

the only real use the Stoner saw was by the SEALs. I dont think Ive ever seen a pic of the SEALs using it in any configuration other than the LMG version either. These were in such low numbers that it doesnt make sense to suggest it for this game. Get over it already.

How mad can one be? lmao

[static]

Originally posted by Soviet Spy)):

I'd prefer to see a map with US special forces (XM177s and Stoner 63s maybe) vs idk whoever works really. That or the ARVN and ANZACs, think about the content those 2 factions would bring, all new customization options, new weapons, new commander abilities, plus the ARVN would probably bring back some old favorites like the M1 Garand and Thompson.

ARVN and ANZAC are on the Trello roadmap for RS2. They're coming at some point.

[Yoshiro]

We are definitly interested in adding the ANZAC and ARVN factions to the game as we move ahead and are looking at what weapons could be added.

[Big Duke]

Originally posted by Coffee GS 1-3:

Originally posted by X-BigDukeSix:

enough with the stupid weapon requests.

it was TESTED by the Marines.one Marine company.. not used beyond a test period.

the only real use the Stoner saw was by the SEALs. I dont think Ive ever seen a pic of the SEALs using it in any configuration other than the LMG version either. These were in such low numbers that it doesnt make sense to suggest it for this game. Get over it already.

How mad can one be? lmao

im not mad at all. just amazed at the level of stupidity on display in the information age. if you took it as anger somehow, youre a pretty clueless dude.

[Rei]

Originally posted by TWYoshiro:

We are definitly interested in adding the ANZAC and ARVN factions to the game as we move ahead and are looking at what weapons could be added.

*hype intensifies*

[IRDCAM]

4000 total Stoners made of both designs, and considered a failure during testing and too expensive, thank you GI low bid requirments for equipment.

Service rifles are more than not a universal design on purpose for logistical reasons, one weapon, one ammunition, one parts and maintenence logistics chain.....reality

[IRDCAM]

ARVN should have M1 Carbine, M1 Garand, M-1918 BAR, M1919 MMG, and a few M-16's and M-60's later.

ANZAC's the L1A1 SLR and the M-60.

Pretty much the standard issue.