IZH 43

[YVAN EHT NIOJ]

Saw that gun in weapons trailer. Actually this gun came to world in 1986, but basically its IZH 58 from 1958. Does devs knows about it or it is some different IZH 43?

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

North_Dumpling lähetti viestin:

Retrova lähetti viestin:

Also the IZH-43 was in the games Vietcong and Vietcong 2. So the developers of those games made the "mistake" too?

Honestly saying , Jackett told us that they were basing off Vietcong 2 lol. They dont do their research they way they should.

That wasn't what he said. He just mentioned Vietcong 2. In fact he actually questioned as to what they called it in that game.

The gun was originally called "Baikal Double Barrel Shotgun". He said they needed a better name than that.

[North_Dumpling]

" Vietcong 2 might also be to blame for putting the term IZH-43 in our head "

[Grif]

it was used in the cambodian civil war so it was out during the vietnam war.

[YVAN EHT NIOJ]

IRIxGrif lähetti viestin:

it was used in the cambodian civil war so it was out during the vietnam war.

Now try to find IZH 43 on vietnamese wiki: https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danh_sách_vũ_khí_sử_dụng_trong_Nội_chiến_Campuchia

[Jagdwyre]

North_Dumpling lähetti viestin:

" Vietcong 2 might also be to blame for putting the term IZH-43 in our head "

Simply mislabeling a gun is a pretty light oversight and is something that is extremely easily fixed. Seems a bit disingenuous to say they "don't do their research like they should" just from a simple description error. Doesn't really matter why the error happened.
It's pretty obvious they've poured far more research into the game than most other FPS devs have, especially given the budget they have. And this is coming from someone who's already whined about the AK's in the game in the past.

They could probably just shut themselves in some monastery somewhere just "researching" the Vietnam War for 5 years and we'd still probably see oversights and errors in the game. That's just the nature of the beast imo.

[VVARHEAD]

Rename the gun pls for accuracy..

[Grif]

YVAN EHT NIOJ lähetti viestin:

IRIxGrif lähetti viestin:

it was used in the cambodian civil war so it was out during the vietnam war.

Now try to find IZH 43 on vietnamese wiki: https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danh_sách_vũ_khí_sử_dụng_trong_Nội_chiến_Campuchia

Oh yeah it doesn't even list that the NVA used shotguns i know, But the NVA used anything they could get their hands on, And im sure realistically they could get their hands on a IZH-43 easily.

[YVAN EHT NIOJ]

IRIxGrif lähetti viestin:

YVAN EHT NIOJ lähetti viestin:

Now try to find IZH 43 on vietnamese wiki: https://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danh_sách_vũ_khí_sử_dụng_trong_Nội_chiến_Campuchia

Oh yeah it doesn't even list that the NVA used shotguns i know, But the NVA used anything they could get their hands on, And im sure realistically they could get their hands on a IZH-43 easily.

Its same list u show, but on vietnamese. And theres no IZH 43.
Im 99,9999999999% sure IZH 43 is middle 80-s gun. Only one way to vietnamese get that gun during vietnamese war is meet Marty McFly.

[Grif]

YVAN EHT NIOJ lähetti viestin:

IRIxGrif lähetti viestin:

Oh yeah it doesn't even list that the NVA used shotguns i know, But the NVA used anything they could get their hands on, And im sure realistically they could get their hands on a IZH-43 easily.

Its same list u show, but on vietnamese. And theres no IZH 43.
Im 99,9999999999% sure IZH 43 is middle 80-s gun. Only one way to vietnamese get that gun during vietnamese war is meet Marty McFly.

Thing is a lot of weapon manufacturers will take an existing product, Change something about it, Give it the same name, And than re-release it with a new date, Truth is the only way to know for sure is to ask baikal since there is little information about the gun anywhere else.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

It's an IZH-58.

Exactly the same as the 43 except for its internal workings.

[Ska Cat]

http://www.maksimov.su/in.php?tnum=1&dvar=http://www.maksimov.su/gallery/&var=glad/izh58/izh58.htm
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http://www.maksimov.su/in.php?dvar=http://www.maksimov.su/gallery/&tnum=1&var=glad/izh-43/izh-43.htm
Its the IZH-58.
The 43 didnt even exist until the 80s

[Jagdwyre]

I feel like this thread has got to the point where people just keep posting the same information on this shotgun over and over.

[Grif]

whatever change two numbers doesn't really make a huge difference

[Ska Cat]

IRIxGrif lähetti viestin:

whatever change two numbers doesn't really make a huge difference

You'd be surprise how many Arabic Reddit Historians care, lol.

[MiscOne]

Write the company a email and Say that you are intrested to buy a IZH43 and the seller say its from military use date is...1959...and see what they will answer to you iam sure they will tell you WHEN they produce this weapon first...