AKM full auto

[lydia's gaff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-Kcs-F9jhs

Starts at 3:30 or so.

See that recoil? That's right, the recoil is almost non-existent when firing full auto. So why is the in-game AKM all over the ♥♥♥♥ing place? Did devs do no research?

[coronawalrus]

I'm having no troubler killing people with the AKM in full auto even at longer distances. Shoot short bursts like the guy in the video.

[lydia's gaff]

Originally posted by alfik:

I'm having no troubler killing people with the AKM in full auto even at longer distances. Shoot short bursts like the guy in the video.

This is about recoil, not about you killing people at long distances. Weapons have AGAIN exaggerated recoil values. Same as they did in RO2.

[Midnight]

But if it's so easy to shoot at full recoil IRL why do most soldiers still use full auto mostly for supression and burt/single for actual effect?

Full auto shooting is mostly a video game/movie thing to begin with as far as I know.

[Katokevin]

Originally posted by cosmo:

Originally posted by alfik:

I'm having no troubler killing people with the AKM in full auto even at longer distances. Shoot short bursts like the guy in the video.

This is about recoil, not about you killing people at long distances. Weapons have AGAIN exaggerated recoil values. Same as they did in RO2.

I loved the AKM as it was in the CBT waves. It was my go to weapon for the VC standard grunt. Accurate, had a nice punch, recoil was very controllable, and the sights were nice and open. Post release, I found the recoil a bit worse (tended to pull left and right a lot more) and I've been forced to go to the Type 56-1 which I find controls more like the AKM in the CBT waves.

[lydia's gaff]

I'm not saying they don't, ♥♥♥♥ sake. I'm just pointing out that the recoil is overdone in the game.

[Gunfreak]

1. You'll also find videos of aks with lots of recoil.
2. This is a modern replica. Not necessarily representative of an ak made in the 50s or 60s from dubious sources.
3. We have no idea how he has loaded the ammo. If he has under loaded it. There would be very little recoil compared to a full load.

[lydia's gaff]

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

1. You'll also find videos of aks with lots of recoil.
2. This is a modern replica. Not necessarily representative of an ak made in the 50s or 60s from dubious sources.
3. We have no idea how he has loaded the ammo. If he has under loaded it. There would be very little recoil compared to a full load.

None of these make any sense whatsoever. Materials are not going to make a gun have less or more recoil. Where the ♥♥♥♥ did you come up with that idea? And the recoil would be lower with more ammo since the magazine is heavier. But it wouldn't be noticeable to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ honest. Have you even fired a gun?

[Gunfreak]

Originally posted by cosmo:

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

1. You'll also find videos of aks with lots of recoil.
2. This is a modern replica. Not necessarily representative of an ak made in the 50s or 60s from dubious sources.
3. We have no idea how he has loaded the ammo. If he has under loaded it. There would be very little recoil compared to a full load.

None of these make any sense whatsoever. Materials are not going to make a gun have less or more recoil. Where the ♥♥♥♥ did you come up with that idea? And the recoil would be lower with more ammo since the magazine is heavier. But it wouldn't be noticeable to be ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ honest. Have you even fired a gun?

I have, but you Aperantly haven't if you think under loading ammo is about the number of bullet in the magazine.

[Sun]

Originally posted by Midnight:

But if it's so easy to shoot at full recoil IRL why do most soldiers still use full auto mostly for supression and burt/single for actual effect?

Full auto shooting is mostly a video game/movie thing to begin with as far as I know.

Yeah too many players compare it to RL. They game is not realistic at all, from gun to gameplay mechanics. How they fail to realise this is mindblowing

[Skullfumble]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnSwM0JnvH8

[A.P Kult]

1. This is a guy that has most likely fired guns his entire life, not just some grunt with basic weapon handling and marksmanship training. Or even worse, a conscript with no experience.

2. He is firing in a controlled environement on a range without any stress, concern or fatigue. He did not have to haul this weapon + equipement through a thick brush for days while it's 85 degrees + humidity.

3. No one is shooting at him. Not to mention ♥♥♥♥ isn't exploding all around him.

4. He is well rested. He did not spend the last few days awake because of fear, stress and the constant defeaning sound of battle.

5. That weapon is clean and well maintained. It wasn't dragged through mud, water and dirt for weeks.

6. He is using good quality commercial ammunition, not whatever cheap mass produced ♥♥♥♥ is available.

7. He his a well fed male of a fairly good build with muscle mass, not some smallish skinny asian guy that had to survive in the brush for the last few months on nothing but rice.

I don't know what you tried to prove with this video, but none of it applies in the settings the game portrays.

People need to realize performance in optimal conditions =/= real life performance. This applies to everything.

[SCUMM]

Game balance.

[Zenith]

One thing to remember, is that the guy demonstrating the AKM is not Vietnamese. Vietnamese people, particularly those living in rural areas, were not very big. The recoil for them will be far more significant, as they lack the body mass and muscle to absorb it in the same way. They also lacked training, and training is very important when it comes to recoil management.

[Guevara]

Yeah, rice-munchers are too weak to hold and fire that rifle like a real men! Great realism.
Steam censors m u n c h e r xD

[Zenith]

Originally posted by hold the door:

Yeah, rice-munchers are too weak to hold and fire that rifle like a real men! Great realism.

Not weak per se, but compare them with a Caucasian male, and you'll see what I'm talking about.