Bots and offline play

[Schmittfeuer]

It's been asked a few times earlier I know, but given that it's released now, what's the status of offline play?

Are bots available in the vain of Ostfront and RO2/RS1 now?

[Altair]

No, there are no bots in the game. Many will point to the console commands, but having tried them the bots just sit there and if you are lucky 2 might move out at a time. For the moment bots are not in and from what i hear are not planned to be officially implemented.

[Mr. Toaster]

That's sad. Too many shooters are this way these days. Too many MP-only games die early as a result too. I miss the Battlefront 2/Battlefront 1942 and Vietnam days when we could play on and offline and somewhere in between.

Bots extend a game's life and allow queue times to not be a factor if you want to jump in and play.

A lot of people enjoy shooters like this, but don't enjoy online elitism and stress.

[Altair]

Indeed, after playing RS/RO2 with bots and seeing this I thought we would finally see Battlefield Vietnam's replacement (as windows 10 patched out SafeDisc antipiracy support so BF:V no longer works), but it is not the case. Tripwire cited many people complained about bots in RO2/RS as their reason for not adding bots so unless the demand significantly outweighs the backlassh I do not forsee them being implemented.

[Mr. Toaster]

Publicado originalmente por Altair:

Indeed, after playing RS/RO2 with bots and seeing this I thought we would finally see Battlefield Vietnam's replacement (as windows 10 patched out SafeDisc antipiracy support so BF:V no longer works), but it is not the case. Tripwire cited many people complained about bots in RO2/RS as their reason for not adding bots so unless the demand significantly outweighs the backlassh I do not forsee them being implemented.

I don't understand why anyone would complain about bots before they were added? Why would you tell someone not to add options to a game that might increase the game's popularity and community?

Day of Infamy seems the superior option in war shooters right now as a result, since it has full bot support now.

[Ghoul Blaster (Wu-Tang)]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Toaster:

Publicado originalmente por Altair:

Indeed, after playing RS/RO2 with bots and seeing this I thought we would finally see Battlefield Vietnam's replacement (as windows 10 patched out SafeDisc antipiracy support so BF:V no longer works), but it is not the case. Tripwire cited many people complained about bots in RO2/RS as their reason for not adding bots so unless the demand significantly outweighs the backlassh I do not forsee them being implemented.

I don't understand why anyone would complain about bots before they were added? Why would you tell someone not to add options to a game that might increase the game's popularity and community?

Especially if the functionality is already there.

[Altair]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Toaster:

Publicado originalmente por Altair:

Indeed, after playing RS/RO2 with bots and seeing this I thought we would finally see Battlefield Vietnam's replacement (as windows 10 patched out SafeDisc antipiracy support so BF:V no longer works), but it is not the case. Tripwire cited many people complained about bots in RO2/RS as their reason for not adding bots so unless the demand significantly outweighs the backlassh I do not forsee them being implemented.

I don't understand why anyone would complain about bots before they were added? Why would you tell someone not to add options to a game that might increase the game's popularity and community?

Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm 1 had bots in it, has bots in it rather. According to Tripwire these bots were supposedly not well recieved, hence no bots in RS 2

[Mr. Toaster]

Publicado originalmente por Altair:

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Toaster:

I don't understand why anyone would complain about bots before they were added? Why would you tell someone not to add options to a game that might increase the game's popularity and community?

Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm 1 had bots in it, has bots in it rather. According to Tripwire these bots were supposedly not well recieved, hence no bots in RS 2

Gotcha. I think if the AI were programmed better (They don't have to be human equivalents, just competent enough to pose some challenges in large numbers and higher difficulties), there wouldn't be complaints. Of course, that's the hard part, but I think it's worth it for the tradeoffs (Longer living game, less frustration over full servers or long queues, more casuals and older gamers picking up the game).

EA's new Battlefront sure could have used better offline. it got reamed for its lack of singleplayer/bots/offline play, and some of its game modes were so unplayed by the community, you couldn't play them without 50 minute waits. Titanfall 1 also suffered to the point Titanfall 2 added sp content. You couldn't even finish the tutorial without other players in that game, and nobody was playing it after a certain point!

Even though EA is still not fully supporting it (it's not rocket science, but for some reason game devs of the past did it way better than modern devs seem to be able or willing to), they are doing more now.

[Altair]

Publicado originalmente por Mr. Toaster:

Publicado originalmente por Altair:

Red Orchestra 2/Rising Storm 1 had bots in it, has bots in it rather. According to Tripwire these bots were supposedly not well recieved, hence no bots in RS 2

Gotcha. I think if the AI were programmed better (They don't have to be human equivalents, just competent enough to pose some challenges in large numbers and higher difficulties), there wouldn't be complaints. Of course, that's the hard part, but I think it's worth it for the tradeoffs (Longer living game, less frustration over full servers or long queues, more casuals and older gamers picking up the game). EA's new Battlefront sure could have used better offline. it got reamed for its lack of singleplayer/bots/offline play.

I mean really FPS AI has never been good per se. Even Battlefield: Vietnam's AI was derpy and could basically only attack/ defend objectives and engage enemies just like RO2/RS AI. Really the bots have 2 functions imo, #1 being it fills in gaps when servers aren't active and #2 it provides a source of revenue coming from a different market (those who prefer SP)

[Schmittfeuer]

Shame. But yeah I know the complaints, why they are really there if you can just ignore the mode or the bots for that matter is beyond me still though.

I just like futureproof stuff and the occasional easy session. I mean it's thanks to the braindead bots that Ostfront is at least still somewhat playable during regular times.

[Altair]

Well in the gaming community theres alot of false dichotomy thrown around such as "Oh if you want there to be an easy mode you want the game dumbed down and you're a filthy casual" or "Bots ruin the game (for the person in question) therefore they should be taken out." Nobody really stands up for options any more, it seems to always have to be 1 group's fantasy game and if they have to "shout" to the point of being heard over the majority of the market they are willing to do so.

[Kothen]

How the hell do bots bother people? Just dont play offline and play with real people. Its a damn shame if there is no offline/bot support for this game. RO2 had bot support. Will not be purchasing if there is no plans to add bots.

[Altair]

No clue how bots annoy people, i guess they'd prefer empty servers to bot gap fillers. but they're likely the same sweatlords that complain to a dev if ther'es an easy difficulty.

[Kothen]

At the very least add bots to offline/private only servers.

[Altair]

Given how many people I've seen on theforums requesting bots i'm sure they'll deliver eventually. I personally requested a refund because i didn't want to risk getting stuck with a game I don't enjoy.

[Kothen]

I hear you, I made the mistake and bought Squad only to discover they decided to not have any bot support at all.