My drivers don't overtake nearly as much as they used to.

[BBQKyle]

Ever since this update, my drivers will ride behind cars they're much faster than and wont pass. After about 2 or 3 laps they just complain that they can't get around them, even if they were coming up on them like the other car was standing still. Putting their cars on Attack/Overtake doesn't help, even if the other car is way worse than mine and running conserveatively. I have the 3rd best car on the grid and my better driver has an overtaking stat of 18, but because they can't pass I've gone from an almost guaranteed podium spot to finishing no better than 15th. I tried shedding all the weight that I could and still finish the race and it seems to add nothing to the performance of the cars.

[Freefall]

I completely agree. Theres a major problem somewhere. I just did Dubai and my team have ERS #1 car. Front row, my reserve in P2, and Evans in the Predator in P1. The difference in car stats is about 600 performance, its staggering.

Race starts Evans pulls ahead, and spends 4 laps blocking me with us both on the same settings. I mean come on, thats just stupid. And by the way - actual racing is as much about bringing the best tech as it is about being a good driver. Balance is totally borked right now....

ERS balance, with its retarded revers championship grid, good luck getting from P20 into P1. Its completely broken right now. You'll even get OVERTAKEN by worse cars that are on BACKUP. Its mental...this is on Normal difficulty too!!!

All that was needed was better AI decision making for Inters and Wets. Now it seems like theyve made the AI autobalance to within a % range of your car, despite their actual performance development. So you end up with ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Predator blocking your championship leading car for laps and laps and laps. Its so stupid.....

[Freefall]

And again, 6 laps stuck in P3 behind Santa Ana, with car performance at 700 base + 360 stripped. Just..... madness.

[Tig_green]

Originally posted by DestroXV:

And again, 6 laps stuck in P3 behind Santa Ana, with car performance at 700 base + 360 stripped. Just..... madness.

6 laps doesn't sound too much.

[Coffer]

Originally posted by Tig_green:

Originally posted by DestroXV:

And again, 6 laps stuck in P3 behind Santa Ana, with car performance at 700 base + 360 stripped. Just..... madness.

6 laps doesn't sound too much.

6 laps is extreme with that car difference, unless he has a terrible driver. It's Santa Ana in a Predator. You should only need a lap at most.

[Freefall]

Was my reserve driver - 2.75 Star - Van Braekel. So yeah.... no reason to be stuck beind Saint Ana with a #1 ranked 700+360 performance.

[Inardesco]

Santa Ana has been my bane in the ERS, the most difficult driver to overtake there.

[Prasiatko]

Odd i'm noticing the opposite, far more overtaking and being overtaken than before.

[Xautos]

i once had a case where i was playing predator months ago and evans held up this massive pack of cars all the way through half the race, santa ana built a lead of 30 seconds, but then evans lost 2nd place and within 6 laps of the finish santa ana was overtaken.

i've also seen the ai use santa ana for almost the whole duration of a race as leader from time to time until the other ai drivers finally force their way past and she drops to the back all in the space of 3 laps.

this is not a new issue.

[Brian]

How about, before complaining, you play 2 or 3 full seasons to let things shake out, especially if you are continuing saves.

[Freefall]

Originally posted by Brian:

How about, before complaining, you play 2 or 3 full seasons to let things shake out, especially if you are continuing saves.

How about, maybe some of us already did before posting?

Thanks for your input

[Coffer]

Originally posted by DestroXV:

Originally posted by Brian:

How about, before complaining, you play 2 or 3 full seasons to let things shake out, especially if you are continuing saves.

How about, maybe some of us already did before posting?

Thanks for your input

The patch has barely been out for any serious amount of time, so I have a hard time believing you've done 2-3 long seasons already. If you're playing with anything less than long race lengths, that's on you, as the shorter stints, just like running 50% races in CM F1, will naturally make you struggle to overtake more. If anything it was bugged before.

[kingarthur772]

Yes, because the Patch makes the game more realistic. And that is what the game needed absolutly. So you have to use strategys like in real races.

1. let your driver / drivers get behind the competitor and let him try to overtake and attack
2. let your driver / drivers get behind the competitor and wait to a mistake of the competitor
3. let your driver / drivers get behind the competitor and let the competitor destroy his / her tyres
4. you make an undercut with boxstrategys (and watch for the weather it´s an important factor)
and 5. the first and imporatant strategy at racestart for the first 1 or 2 laps: overtake and attack!!!!

It´s not a big chance for me, becaus I use this strategys after the game comes out.

[Freefall]

Originally posted by Coffer:

Originally posted by DestroXV:

How about, maybe some of us already did before posting?

Thanks for your input

The patch has barely been out for any serious amount of time, so I have a hard time believing you've done 2-3 long seasons already. If you're playing with anything less than long race lengths, that's on you, as the shorter stints, just like running 50% races in CM F1, will naturally make you struggle to overtake more. If anything it was bugged before.

Believe what you want, i dont care. We disagree on balance and thats fine, its all subjective. Since the beta, the half-season (believe that too if you want) i've done seems to be improved.

... maybe not for those of you who want a hardocre experience, because being hardcore these days is cool. You were given a difficulty slider for that. :-)

[kingarthur772]

Yes you are right DetroXV, there is a button you can say the AI should operate normal (like we know from the old Patches) in races or realistic (which is bringing more action to the races).

And then the strategys I mentiond are very important for the player.