Rabi-Ribi
Any idea how to not do invisibly small damage to Noah's first form on New Game + Hard?
On the other modes so far, this fight was the easy part but, on this mode, she blows Miru out of the water almost entirely by having so much health. This mode was only a little bit hard before this point.
Last edited by D YellowMadness; Jun 22, 2016 @ 10:54pm
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Iris Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:08pm 
Buy attack up and defence down buffs. Melt Miru as fast as possible, have about 30-60 seconds worth of buffs left for Noah. Recognize that Noah has the same signature attacks as everyone else on Rabi Ribi island. Dodge. Use bunny amulet plus super carrots in combo for increased invincibility and free damage.
Last edited by Iris; Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:08pm
D YellowMadness Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:16pm 
Originally posted by Iris:
Buy attack up and defence down buffs. Melt Miru as fast as possible, have about 30-60 seconds worth of buffs left for Noah. Recognize that Noah has the same signature attacks as everyone else on Rabi Ribi island. Dodge. Use bunny amulet plus super carrots in combo for increased invincibility and free damage.

I bought all the buffs in the game but it doesn't seem possible to beat Miru fast enough on Hard New Game Plus to still have 'em for Noah. I've been doing that other stuff but I've been having trouble finding many chances to do it.
chaoticenigma Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:36pm 
Did you find all the attack up items available? All of the ones that are picked up exploring would be available at that point of the game.

Did you buy all the attack ups available from the shop in Post-Postgame?

The game expects you to truly be fully prepared on a NG+ run, though you can get away with not having max PP for badges, you still need to be high on the amount you do have.

Did you beat the 3 special bosses in NG? Each special boss you defeat will unlock some upgrades in the shop. In NG+, you can even beat them again since you would need to in order to unlock the extra +1 upgrade in the shop from NG+, but the special bosses are a huge pain in NG+(on Bunny Extinction NG+, 2 of the 3 are effectively forced Dodge Masters because of how much damage they do even with defensive items). I wouldn't be surprised if that were the same on Hard Loop 2 because Ashuri Special nulls your badges when hit and Nature Orb only works at low health(not to mention Cocoa's nulling your i-frames for a bit after being hit in her special fight).



I think you can have 40 Attack Ups total in NG if you find all of them and buy all the ones available through the shop. IIRC, it's 20 pickups, 20 purchased, but I'd have to load up my Hell NG 100%(not counting easter eggs where I 100%'d those on BEX) file to check how many were from the shop.


It is possible to beat Miru with buffs still active on Bunny Extinction Loop 2. But beating her with that much time left seems unreasonable. I was only between 10-20 seconds left when I reached Noah 1 on the buffs.
Last edited by chaoticenigma; Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:48pm
D YellowMadness Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:45pm 
Originally posted by chaoticenigma:
Did you find all the attack up items available? All of the ones that are picked up exploring would be available at that point of the game.

Did you buy all the attack ups available from the shop in Post-Postgame?

Did you beat the 3 special bosses in NG? Each special boss you defeat will unlock some upgrades in the shop. In NG+, you can even beat them again since you would need to in order to unlock the extra +1 upgrade in the shop from NG+, but the special bosses are a huge pain in NG+(on Bunny Extinction NG+, 2 of the 3 are effectively forced Dodge Masters because of how much damage they do even with defensive items). I wouldn't be surprised if that were the same on Hard Loop 2 because Ashuri Special nulls your badges when hit and Nature Orb only works at low health(not to mention Cocoa's debuffs).


I think you can have 40 Attack Ups total in NG if you find all of them and buy all the ones available through the shop.


It is possible to beat Miru with buffs still active on Bunny Extinction Loop 2. But beating her with that much time left seems unreasonable. I was only between 10-20 seconds left when I reached Noah 1 on the buffs.

I got all of those upgrades.
chaoticenigma Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:51pm 
Even with those, I still ended up looping through Noah's patterns having to use 2 of my healing items to survive. I used no items for Miru and Noah 2. Noah 1 took the Gold Carrot and Rumi Cake, and the final form took the donut.

On Hard, you'll at least have the benefit of a second cake and donut to help you survive for long enough.

The difficulty doesn't seem to affect the HP too much. The enemies do have more HP on higher ones due to the extra levels, but for the most part, you shouldn't expect the fights to be too much shorter than that.
Last edited by chaoticenigma; Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:54pm
D YellowMadness Jun 22, 2016 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by chaoticenigma:
Even with those, I still ended up looping through Noah's patterns having to use 2 of my healing patterns to survive. I used no items for Miru and Noah 2. Noah 1 took the Gold Carrot and Rumi Cake, and the final form took the donut.

On Hard, you'll at least have the benefit of a second cake and donut to help you survive for long enough.

Oh. I guess I'll go back to my manual save & keep trying to beat Miru without items. I used 2 donuts & a cake on her & I was planning on beating Noah's first 2 forms without using any items but that doesn't seem feasible anymore. Before New Game Plus, Miru & final form Noah were the hardest parts but New Game Plus seems to've changed that. I'm about to go to bed though so I'll have wait til tomorrow to try it.

Is standard Hell easier than Hard New Game Plus? If so, I think I'll try beating standard Hell before I continue Hard New Game Plus.
D YellowMadness Feb 15, 2017 @ 1:01am 
K. I've beaten BEX, I've beaten Normal on Loop 4, I've beaten True Boss Rush on Normal, & I've beaten True Boss Rush as UPRPRC Girl. I've beaten a 0% run & I've gotten nearly every achievement outside of Boss Rush. Now I'm back to Noah on Hard New Game + & it's just as bad as before.

This is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. I only had 3 deaths on this run until I reached this boss yet this is still impossible for me. I had to use all of my items to get past Noah's first form because of her retarded health bar & because she's most of the worst bosses in one.

It's absolutely disgusting that such an unforgivable difficulty spike got into a game that costs money. Even in a free game made by one person, this would be unforgivable. If I made a list of the top 5 worst videogame bosses I've ever fought, it would be extremely short because I'd just be talking about Noah on 5 different modes.

The fact that my 2 favorite bosses are from this game makes me especially unwilling to excuse this. Someone made a long series of ♥♥♥♥♥♥ bosses on purpose. These fights are fun on Normal. On everything else, they're like something out of one of the very worst NES games.

It sucks ass that this boss alone is barring me from more than half of the content of this game. None of the bosses that come after Noah are even remotely close to the difficulty, unfairness, or tedium of Noah. Even Miriam is extremely easy for me despite the fact that I never remember to adjust my badges when fighting her.

Until the next DLC is released, there's nothing left for me in this game because of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Last edited by D YellowMadness; Feb 15, 2017 @ 1:47am
Vice Feb 15, 2017 @ 3:50am 
Are you able to reach and maintain a MAX combo?
............this just made me realize that I should probably stop Noah glitching on my BEX Loop runs. Currently working on BEX Loop 3 Irisu and I have no idea how hard Noah 1 is on Loop 2 nor 3 lol
Last edited by 竜一ゼキラ (Zekira G. Drake; Feb 15, 2017 @ 7:00am
Songbird Feb 15, 2017 @ 5:39pm 
On NG+, combo is king.

Equip the Ribbon and Erina badges and repeatedly charge and fire the red magic while holding the hammer V button. (I am not sure, but fully charging seems to restore significantly more stamina than the normal charge and may be optimal--at the very least, I seem to get the Ribbon badge to allow extra shots more often when I charge slightly longer than normal, which is not really supposed to happen during a hammer combo.) You will rack up over 300 hits per stamina bar this way, leading you to quickly max the damage bonus for combo at 1000 hits. The super carrot and blue/yellow/orange magic when you cannot melee her will allow you to quickly reach MAX combo meter, which you can maintain easily as long as you don't get hit. When she flies into the air for attacks, use the blue burst magic to continue to deal damage and raise your combo meter.

It is essential that you do not get hit very much as that neuters your damage on NG+ by wrecking your combo rank. You also do not want to drop combo, as that resets your combo count damage bonus to zero and drops your combo rank by a few levels.

Charged blue magic does the most damage I think (seems to be pretty close to orange), but charged red magic allows you to stunlock bosses for longer with the Ribbon badge which may lead to more overall damage since you can fire more times. Never accidentally use the red burst though; it's utter garbage and might as well do nothing.
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