Remove the guardian takedown if you are not gona

[Gökyüzü]

balanced or fix it.
It's so pointless to play even god tier builds cant do ♥♥♥♥.
A guardians which i littterly one shot in nekrotafeyo and watch 5 more to die with the explosion now takes my 5 magazine to die.
Its been i dont know how 7 or 8 month since this takedown is live now. And no one likes, no one even wants to enter and play. There are tons of ♥♥♥♥♥ problems.
Seriously game is better with out this takedown.
I dont wanna take shock plaguebearer and spam it till enemys die which it is bacily the only way to keep buletsponge guardians away from crystals which %99 of them is gona atack you with melee to stop charging the crystals.

To be honnest that guardians are even more bulet sponge then varkid raid. There are tons of them and none of them dies easy. not even when all your kill skills active and when you shot them with an amplified plaguebearer its still gona take 2 more freaking shot to murder them.

[Diogenes49]

My problem was the jumping to get to anathema vanishing stepping stones, really?

[Gökyüzü]

Publicado originalmente por Diogenes49:

My problem was the jumping to get to anathema vanishing stepping stones, really?

Thats also my problem im using zane and i it was easy to jump with moze but zane is so fast and if you get to fall you have to do all over again just to get some trash item.

[Mez Koo]

Publicado originalmente por Diogenes49:

My problem was the jumping to get to anathema vanishing stepping stones, really?

Are you talking about the ones that fade in and out? IIRC that is just for show unless they were bugged when I did it and I didn't fall once it faded away.

[Diogenes49]

I stepped on one tried to stay stationary and when it disappeared I fell

[Mez Koo]

Publicado originalmente por Diogenes49:

I stepped on one tried to stay stationary and when it disappeared I fell

We're talking about the purple platforms after the first boss right? For example around 10:45 in this guide: https://youtu.be/6fSTiY37FYc?t=644

[Diogenes49]

yes but they moved around when I played it

[Mez Koo]

Publicado originalmente por Diogenes49:

yes but they moved around when I played it

Well of course they move around, it wouldn't be platforming if they didn't, what I meant by my original comment was that there was no rush to time when they are visible or not. The fading in and out appearance is there to pressure you and make you feel like you have to time everything perfectly, I even jumped to avoid falling when they appeared to fade away, but once you realize that the appearance of fading in and out is just for show then its much less tense and you can take your time.

[Diogenes49]

I will try it again but I was pretty sure that I was stationary and when it vanished I fell

[Mez Koo]

Publicado originalmente por Diogenes49:

I will try it again but I was pretty sure that I was stationary and when it vanished I fell

In the video I linked you can clearly see him sit and wait on the platforms while they vanish and come back so either we're talking about different platforms they they "fixed" them within the past few months.

[Diogenes49]

yes it looked much easier than what I saw

[Mez Koo]

Regardless, guardian take down is way too long and has too much cheese.

[JackBurton]

Guardian Takedown sucks, its the only BL3 map I will not play. Arms Race >> Guardian TD.

[Jerubius]

I'm not sure what changed, but I've found it way easier recently. Finally completed on M11 with the same build I've been using for months. Noticed enemies seemed to be dying a lot faster than before, and a lot of areas were faster to progress though, with crystals seeming to charge faster and doors opening or platforms appearing before I killed every enemy.

Now that I find it less of a slog, it's jumped up from some of my least favorite content to among my favorite for the game. Now only if there could be some worthwhile loot for doing it. Pretty much the only thing that matters is stinger for one niche Amara build, and being a shield, there's no real reason to farm for it on higher mayhem levels.

[Metro]

Platforming does not belong in a game like this... particularly with bouncy/inaccurate physics.

[Talon]

Publicado originalmente por Metro:

Platforming does not belong in a game like this... particularly with bouncy/inaccurate physics.

Can only imagine how bad that goes with characters who have stuff to increase their movement speed... or are using the Super Soldier shield.