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Collaboration Governments
I've established a collaboration government in Poland using two operatives. After the mission is completed, do I need to keep my operatives in that country? I removed the operatives (before the war) and I think I lost the collaboration government.
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From what I know, a collaboration government mission will give you compliance in that country, usually 30% so you need a few to get to the collab government.
After the mission is completed, do I need to keep my operatives in that country to continue building an intel network?
Ultima modifica da commandokline; 17 dic 2022, ore 15:52
Messaggio originale di commandokline:
After the mission is completed, do I need to keep my operatives in that country to continue building an intel network?

You do not lose the collaboration goverment but you do lose the intel network if you remove your operatives
Messaggio originale di commandokline:
I've established a collaboration government in Poland using two operatives. After the mission is completed, do I need to keep my operatives in that country? I removed the operatives (before the war) and I think I lost the collaboration government.

You didn't actually establish the collab, you laid the groundwork.
With the mission completed you gain a set compliance level when the country capitulates, with 1 operation completed that is usually 30% but you can get critical success with 45%.
You can re-do the operation multiple times to get the basic foundation up to 100% meaning once Poland surrenders you will immediately be able to establish a collaboration government in all territory you control.

As for operatives, if no operatives are either actively or passively establishing intel networks then the network level will start to decrease until it is eventually completely gone. However in regard of the collab process no they are not needed, the level of collab you have gained will be kept permanently for the duration of your game for that specific country.
Hi Mikey, I understand multiple collab operations. What do you mean by "get CRITICAL success with 45%?" Thank you.
Ultima modifica da gmsh1964; 17 dic 2022, ore 17:05
You'll usually need to do the collab mission some 3 times to get 90% compliance, which is generally ideal to get control of a majority of the factories/resources. Afterwards you can move your agents elsewhere as there isn't much point to keeping them in nations that don't need collab or won't be in the war much longer.

Also, I'd recommend not actually forming the collab governments for major countries like poland, france, etc. that you occupy, as you will actually lose factories/resources from them that they will then be using, despite the slight cost of garrisoning them.
Messaggio originale di gmsh1964:
Hi Mikey, I understand multiple collab operations. What do you mean by "get CRITICAL success with 45%?" Thank you.
It means the progress of completing setting up the colab gov. When it hits 100%, you will be directly be able to form a colab gov when the nation capitulates. Each time you perform an operation to set up the colab, there's a chance that it may be done very well. It gives you 45% of progression, not 30% of progression, which means 'critical success'.
1. As long as you have finished a colab operation, the progress 'remains'. Even if your operatives are all killed, it remains intact.
2. After a mission is done, you don't necessarily need to keep them in there. However, since collaboration governments require multiple operations to fully form, you may need more operations than once.
3. What you lose is the intel network when you pull them off. You will need to re-establish it if you want to do more operations.
4. With the colab set up operation, you will need 2 to 4 times of operations to fully set it up.
It depends on how successful your missions are. Mostly it's 3 times.
5. If the progression wasn't 100% or didn't reach the threshold to create the colab government, a decision or a pop-up telling you whether you want to make a colab gov or no won't appear.

Tips:

If you want to do the ops quickly, get 3 operatives, put them on building intel network, send 2 of them to form colab, and let the last one keep building the network. It will keep the network intact even after the mission is over, which means you can do the mission right away when it's done, without having needed to create the intel network again.
Ultima modifica da Present; 17 dic 2022, ore 17:26
You do not lose the collaboration government on Poland because it is there forever until you iehter upgrade it to a more percentage or just leave it, but remember (cancelled holocaust joke)
Can you run collaboration missions with your operatives AFTER you occupy the country?

Also, what is the point in building seperate Intel networks with a single country? I've noticed that there are 3 seperate areas to build an Intel network within France.
Ultima modifica da commandokline; 17 dic 2022, ore 23:32
Messaggio originale di commandokline:
After the mission is completed, do I need to keep my operatives in that country to continue building an intel network?
Just look at the menus man, it says right on it.
Messaggio originale di commandokline:
Can you run collaboration missions with your operatives AFTER you occupy the country?

Also, what is the point in building seperate Intel networks with a single country? I've noticed that there are 3 seperate areas to build an Intel network within France.

No you cannot since those are specifically designed to be a “use resources before the war, sometimes at the expense of your ability to prepare the war properly, to make it easier to keep the country under your control after the war” kind of operation. After you’ve taken the country you can only put operatives in place to lower resistance but you’ll need to grow compliance with time.

Intel coverage provides some significant bonus to military operations since it reduces both enemy’s entrenchment and planning bonus making it easier both to push and to keep your defence up. Both those bonuses apply only if you have Intel network in that area (and if the network is active). So, for example, building a network in Los Angeles will not help you with an invasion conducted in Florida. Additionally, if you manage to connect the different areas you’re working on (for example, in France there should be two “interest points” in the North of the country) the effective coverage of your network will be superior to that of the individual areas.
Excellent, thank you for all of the responses. I have a good grasp of collaboration governments now.
Wow, all well covered and I nearly repeated most, glad I read through first :D




Messaggio originale di Present:
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Tips:

If you want to do the ops quickly, get 3 operatives, put them on building intel network, send 2 of them to form colab, and let the last one keep building the network. It will keep the network intact even after the mission is over, which means you can do the mission right away when it's done, without having needed to create the intel network again.

^^^ That's really good advice for any situation when running ops, take heed and utilise.
Messaggio originale di velvetcrabman:
Wow, all well covered and I nearly repeated most, glad I read through first :D




Messaggio originale di Present:
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Tips:

If you want to do the ops quickly, get 3 operatives, put them on building intel network, send 2 of them to form colab, and let the last one keep building the network. It will keep the network intact even after the mission is over, which means you can do the mission right away when it's done, without having needed to create the intel network again.

^^^ That's really good advice for any situation when running ops, take heed and utilise.
Also, if you're just waiting to run a collab mission again, switch your 3rd operative to quiet the network instead of building it. This way they don't get captured while your other 2 operatives are away.

As covered above, as for where to put your operatives, consider where your troops are going to be operating. If you're planning a naval of invasion, closer is better, as the planning bonuses and entrenchment can help significantly.

IIRC, spy detection is based on VP of the state, so putting your network for collab building in Vladivostok (should) be smarter than putting it in Moscow. Can't find where I read this so I'm not saying this 100%.
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