German Admirals in the German Empire

[whitetsar461]

Has anyone noticed when they play as the German Empire that Karl Donitz and Erich Raeder are no longer available? The "Trade Interdiction" National Focus also loses all its stats.

[captain403]

At the start of the civil war an event fires that asks you to complete several focuses within a time frame. If you refuse, those admirals stay with the fascists and you don't get them back.

[whitetsar461]

Do you by chance know which focuses it is?

[captain403]

While you are running 'Rally the Wehrmacht', the event will trigger. The focuses it wants you to complete within 2 years are either
A: 'Rebuild the high seas fleet', under the 'Weltpolitik' branch, or
B: 'The high seas fleet' and 'Re-establish the Seekriegsleitung', both under the 'Strengthen the Kriegsmarine' branch.

If you refuse, the two admirals leave, and most of the fleet joins the fascists. You get the surviving ships back after the war, but the admirals are gone permanently.

If you agree, a timer starts, for you to complete the above focuses. If you fail, the admirals revolt, and can take over the leadership of the reich if you let them. Not sure what happens if you refuse to let them take over.

To be honest, unless you are going for a surface fleet, it's not worth agreeing. Donitz can be replaced with a newly recruited admiral who will quite rapidly learn everything Donitz knew if you go u-boat heavy. Under those circumstances, Raeder is useless. The only downside is to have a pre-war chief of the kriegsmarine, you will have to complete 'Re-establish the Seekriegsleitung'. However, if you are churning out u-boats and training them, you will get all the navy XP you need, without a chief of staff. As for the loss of the effects of 'Trade Interdiction' focus, that's quite minor compared to the delay caused by diverting to the requisite focuses will cause your pre-war plans.

I've always told the admirals to take a hike. The loss is insignificant.

[whitetsar461]

Maybe I don't have the correct DLC. I have never seen Rally the Wehrmacht. I do have the National Focus trees though such as Strengthen the Kriegsmarine. I also have the Oppose Hitler focus tree.

[Kretias]

Originally posted by whitetsar461:

Maybe I don't have the correct DLC. I have never seen Rally the Wehrmacht. I do have the National Focus trees though such as Strengthen the Kriegsmarine. I also have the Oppose Hitler focus tree.

Then you lack Götterdämmerung. Dunno how its without the DLC (or how it was since I never cared about navy as germany that much) but its possible that since you cant make the deal with Erich that he just dips now without Götterdämmerung.

[captain403]

Originally posted by Kretias:

Originally posted by whitetsar461:

Maybe I don't have the correct DLC. I have never seen Rally the Wehrmacht. I do have the National Focus trees though such as Strengthen the Kriegsmarine. I also have the Oppose Hitler focus tree.

Then you lack Götterdämmerung. Dunno how its without the DLC (or how it was since I never cared about navy as germany that much) but its possible that since you cant make the deal with Erich that he just dips now without Götterdämmerung.

This. I'd suggest a bug report. Not the 1st time Götterdämmerung has fritzed the game for those that don't have it.

[whitetsar461]

Oh, okay. It has more than six months since I played last. Hey, I don't know who you are or what you do. But I am extremely grateful you are taking the time to help me. Thank you.

[whitetsar461]

Do you recommend The Four Year Plan or Prioritize Economic Growth? (I don't plan to go to war until 1940)

[captain403]

Originally posted by whitetsar461:

Do you recommend The Four Year Plan or Prioritize Economic Growth? (I don't plan to go to war until 1940)

Economic growth is the safer path. The later you intend to be at war, the more you want to use economic growth. 4YP has an in-built timer that will do nasty things to your economy if you don't get the resources you need to achieve autarchy.

[whitetsar461]

Hey, captain403. Hope you are well. I have encountered a National Focus (German Empire) Called "Strike Eastward". One of the prerequisites is "More than 100,000 infantry equipment in the army." Do you know the most efficient way to achieve this? Thank you.

[captain403]

Ah, so you bought Götterdämmerung. :D

As for your question, just build up the army. The other requirement of that focus is having 1 million men in the army. If your division templates are reasonable, fulfilling one requirement should put you within cooee of the other.

Out of curiosity, are you 'nice' empire, or 'evil' empire. I.E, what path did you take to get to that focus; 'see to the eastern front' or 'restore Brest-Litovsk'?

[whitetsar461]

Hey, thanks! And yes! See to the Eastern Front. I took a similar path before the updates.

[captain403]

Btw, now that you have Götterdämmerung, do you get the admirals event previously discussed? Assuming you do, how do you react?

[whitetsar461]

Yes! Have the option to Keep Donitz and Raeder. I keep them but still emphasize on U-Boats/trade interdiction.

[captain403]

Originally posted by whitetsar461:

Yes! Have the option to Keep Donitz and Raeder. I keep them but still emphasize on U-Boats/trade interdiction.

That is quite a big mistake. See my earlier post (#3) on why. Unless you do the required focuses, they are gonna get mad.