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hanspni Dec 28, 2024 @ 11:50pm
AI better with stacking???
I have played many many games in HOI4. One thing that always made it to easy is that AI overstack and run out of supply! In the game i play now with Italy i have a lot of enemies including GER/USSR that are in same faction. They have 20 mill soldiers still and surrounder me as usual. But they are not stacking anywhere. Seems like reserve army keep distance. Is this a coincidence or have other notice the same! If this is a change in AI i welcome it with all my hart!
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Bored Peon Dec 29, 2024 @ 2:49am 
Honestly, I think it is more a lack of unit production.
Inquerion Dec 29, 2024 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by hanspni:
I have played many many games in HOI4. One thing that always made it to easy is that AI overstack and run out of supply! In the game i play now with Italy i have a lot of enemies including GER/USSR that are in same faction. They have 20 mill soldiers still and surrounder me as usual. But they are not stacking anywhere. Seems like reserve army keep distance. Is this a coincidence or have other notice the same! If this is a change in AI i welcome it with all my hart!
Yes, AI is generally better with that new major patch.

They also defend UK better.

Before new patch I could invade them without any problems, now they send 4-6 decent divisions to each port.

AI is still bad at naval warfare though.
hanspni Dec 29, 2024 @ 7:53am 
Originally posted by Inquerion:
Originally posted by hanspni:
I have played many many games in HOI4. One thing that always made it to easy is that AI overstack and run out of supply! In the game i play now with Italy i have a lot of enemies including GER/USSR that are in same faction. They have 20 mill soldiers still and surrounder me as usual. But they are not stacking anywhere. Seems like reserve army keep distance. Is this a coincidence or have other notice the same! If this is a change in AI i welcome it with all my hart!
Yes, AI is generally better with that new major patch.

They also defend UK better.

Before new patch I could invade them without any problems, now they send 4-6 decent divisions to each port.

AI is still bad at naval warfare though.
It might just be a coincident. I have just taken Spain and have my forces at French border. They now have up to 50 divisions in one single hex. So i was happy to fast. Don`t understand why it is so difficult with programming so units back off when supply goes low!
CH13F Dec 29, 2024 @ 8:06am 
its a result or rather a problem of supply, and dangerous borders.

if ai dont have a dangerous border with anyone, then they going to direct most divisions to the ongoing war's (wars') frontline and with all supplies needed for both side, neither going to go anywhere. and if its a narrow front, the worse. because less tiles, less tiles means more divs per tile.

this s when you need to build railroads and infastructure like maniac. because if you try to pull out troops to ease supply issue, you ll have less amount of divisions on a front and enemy AI will see this as opportunity to break your lines and constantly attack regardless of manpower and equipment. since losing ground is out of question, only thing you can do

-building tons of railroad/infa + motorize all hubs. (needs lotta trucks,trains and civ)(air superiority is also important to reduce dmg to railroads)

-having quality/less divs (preferably logistic company) compared lotta weaker divs. (tho not every country's production can do this, especially minors)

-ideally, In a perfect world, both.

if you can deal with supply issue then it doesnt matter how many divs they stack, they ll be out of supply, naturally out of org. (because i havent see ai builds hubs/railroads) while you can sustain fight as long as you want.
Last edited by CH13F; Dec 29, 2024 @ 8:21am
hanspni Dec 29, 2024 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by CH13F:
its a result or rather a problem of supply, and dangerous borders.

if ai dont have a dangerous border with anyone, then they going to direct most divisions to the ongoing war's (wars') frontline and with all supplies needed for both side, neither going to go anywhere. and if its a narrow front, the worse. because less tiles, less tiles means more divs per tile.

this s when you need to build railroads and infastructure like maniac. because if you try to pull out troops to ease supply issue, you ll have less amount of divisions on a front and enemy AI will see this as opportunity to break your lines and constantly attack regardless of manpower and equipment. since losing ground is out of question, only thing you can do

-building tons of railroad/infa + motorize all hubs. (needs lotta trucks,trains and civ)(air superiority is also important to reduce dmg to railroads)

-having quality/less divs (preferably logistic company) compared lotta weaker divs. (tho not every country's production can do this, especially minors)

-ideally, In a perfect world, both.

if you can deal with supply issue then it doesnt matter how many divs they stack, they ll be out of supply, naturally out of org. (because i havent see ai builds hubs/railroads) while you can sustain fight as long as you want.
Naaah! I don`t think u are correct on this! The axis don`t have a dangerous border other than towards me (italy) Ger/USSR are allied, china (what it`s left is also axis together with Japan! US and britain are at war and britain don`t have colonies any more. US can`t attack if they wanted and britain is weak! Axis still have 20 mill soldiers. But u are correct they don`t build hubs or railways.
CH13F Dec 29, 2024 @ 8:46am 
well, thats what i said, if ger and ussr are allied, and if germany isnt fighting any other major war and if you re not in axis, then germany will direct troops to your border. at least most of its' forces, thats quite normal. especially in your case where UK and USA out of picture.

it sounds like a mega powerful axis in your campaign. i mean i seen germany deployed 1k divs before but i never seen an axis including germany+ussr+japan+china+probably vichy? all the world on your doorstep.
Last edited by CH13F; Dec 29, 2024 @ 8:53am
hanspni Dec 30, 2024 @ 1:17am 
Now they are not stacking anymore!!! just cut them off and trapped them, around 2.5 mill men less to fight! With almost no lost! maybe 50 000 at most. Might be my largest trap, but not by much! LOL
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