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Germany's Confederation of Europe Decision
I will mainly discuss about a certain condition to trigger a decision. Post-Gotterdamerung on German's focus trees is added the path to 'Realize European Unity'.

I have detailed at least two condition herein for this decision to appear:
1. For the focus to be completed when you are not at war. With anyone;
2. No focus on its branch has been bypassed.

I've acquired such hypotheses with the following run:
1. I warred with the Allies&co when the focus completed and it did not appear in my decisions overlay. Might be wrong due to the run being experimented a while back and save is deleted as I had thought the problem solved.
2. Recently I made a run with Germany and one of the focused is bypassed, particularly 'Align Czechoslovakia' as they've made the Czech Entente with Yugo and Romania, and while I've been able to advance through the focus as usual unfortunately the problem, again, appears with the decision not appearing. This time I'm not at war with anyone when the focus to unlock the decision is completed.

Disclaimer that I've only ever tried [Monarchist Germany -> to -> EU] run and never done the Democratic side of the branch. I've also tons of mods that adds decisions too although referring to my 1st condition above there're also plenty of times when the decision appears and works just fine. And mostly I've been playing on Alt-historical with Historical Focuses turned off.

What I needed help with is: a) is my explained conditions as above true?, b) what's your experience in forming the EU as Monarchist Germany?, and c) code-wise, how can I reliably make the decision appear and work as intended?

If my problem has already been answered in another Discussion, please also link it here. Thank you.
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There's only two requirements to form the EU:

One: you are required to be democratic but with some minor exploits you can change to another ideology if you want

Two: you must be playing any Western European country and own all the cores belonging to the others (Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Italy, Germany)

https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/Formable_nations/Europe#European_Federation


To do this as Germany you have to do the democratic path and take over the Allies to puppet and annex them or do the democratic fascist tree exploit (pick Rhineland and justify war on any democratic country like Belgium, let them capitulate you then you can be democratic and still use the fascist tree to conquer Europe).
Last edited by HappySack; Jan 24 @ 3:36pm
yahaha Jan 24 @ 9:31am 
It is true that forming the EU requires us to control the BeNeLux region along with Germany + Koenigsberg, France mainland, and Italy with Corsica & Sardinia.

However I'd also like to add that the new German Focus Tree makes it possible to form the European Federation EVEN WITH Monarchist Germany route (i.e. German Empire) through the 'peaceful' route of Mitteleuropa (that is achieved by going through 'Align Czechoslovakia' as opposed to 'Carve-up Czechoslovakia'). And my gripe remains still that in some run I've been able to form them, or at the very least have the decision to do so popped-up, while on other occasion it does not.

As for the wiki page, I am willing to go as far as saying that it is not quite as dependable as it should be.

One piece of additional information regarding my recent run that I've been able to produce for my second point (both in conditions and run description as above) is: the decision for forming the EU, Realize European Unity, and the decision to form the Holy Roman Empire is not listed in the decision overlay. I would argue that some sort of coding spaghetti made both or any formables at all to not be shown and I am in need of help of tracking down the 'what'.
pjd110 Jan 24 @ 11:22am 
I am doing this now. I don't remember if any focus was bypassed, but I used the EU decision while at war. I think the focus was completed while at war too. It's IM game so I can't go back and check saves. It is probably a bug.

I did have a game where I allied, puppeted and annexed the UK through the Middeleeuropa decisions and the decision to core the UK was the not in the expanded core decisions list.
yahaha Jan 28 @ 3:51am 
Just shows how dicey the decision is. A conflict in coding specifically on how the EU is, by default, supposed to be formed by (relevant) democratic countries shows just how unreliable the mechanics are. Tho regarding that expanded decision for EU to core the British Isles, fortunately I've never had problems with it so long of course as the decision to form EU itself shows.

I've also returned to report that in my latest run I have succeeded in making the decision shows itself by, still, going the Monarchist Germany route. The difference with my previous run that doesn't show the decision is that I'm going Historical Focuses turned on and disabling a few mods. One of which I think is related to the decision not showing is a mod called "Victory's March" posted on 30th of March 2024 by Crypticis. Notabene that I am not sure yet if his mod causes the decision to be bugged and also note that there are a few more mods that I cannot be arsed to find out and mention here (all of those are flavors that changes little in the way of focus tree).
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