Macedonia is Greek and only Greek

[Subaru]

While paradox has very accurate lore and story,having Macedonia as independed state is absurd,Macedonia is Greek almost for 2500 years and the so called Yugoslavs came near Greek Macedonias region after 800 years...paradox you should be ashamed for this

[Shortpower]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Macedonia

There exists a country, independent from Greece by its own choice, I know, shocking.

Their decision for sovereignty from Greece about settles the debate no?

As for Paradox being ashamed, ashamed for properly representing the historical reality of N. Macedonia not being a part of the Greek country in 1936?

[Immortalis]

Macedonia doesn't start as an independent state.
It can be released (and annexed by other countries) but the game faithfully represents the historical border of 1936.

If your issue is the possibility of having an independent Macedonia appear in the game, it's not any more absurd than the chance of having an independent Wales or Normandy or having the possibility to dissolve Germany and setting the clock back to the German confederation

[ggman02]

Huh ill check this guys profile "Thessaloniki, Greece" LMAO
"Macedonia is Greek and only Greek" (Internet Greek nationalist)

[djdex425]

sir this is a wendy's

[AN]

Greece is a fake country, never a unified state of its own until it was invented by western europeans in recent history. Macedonia existed loudly, creating a massive empire, for centuries, with over 2000 years of history. Given the reality of ancient history, more accurately greece would just be extended macedonia, compared to the other way around.

How can someone be nationalistic over a country, and a debt riddled failed-state at that, that never existed under its own power and have any self respect?

[Usaball]

A Macedonian, a Greek, a Bulgarian, and a Turk walk into Macedonia...

[Subaru]

How can you play a historical game and dont know history is beyond me
Macedonia,Attica,Thrace,Crete and many others are Greek there is not North Crete as country,i live in Macedonia and i know,Yugoslavia or Vardaska or Fyrom or whatever slavic name they want they hve bsolutely nothing to do with Greek Macedonia

[Subaru]

6 comments and one is worse than another...calling me nationalist and the other search from wiki answers...n,macedonia wasnt even an idea 20 years ago....like albania that stole Epirus from Greece,like yugoslavia stole macedonia from Greece and likebulgaria and turkey stole thrace and aegean islands,please learn history before you answer

[Subaru]

usaball saying:A Greek,a Greek,a bulgarian and a turk walked into Greece....

[Iskander]

Look up "IMRO".

[Reaper King]

You're country exists because a group of British Nerds decided it should exist. There was never a country called greece ever until that point. You aren't the Byzantines. They spoke greek but viewed themselves as romans. You aren't romans, you aren't the ottomans, you aren't any of those. You're greatest ruler and the only one to fully unify greece was't even greek he was Macedonian. STFU. You stupid nationalist. Don't go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on other nations when you're bankrupt country has never been successful on it's own without outside help.

[captain403]

Originally posted by Reaper King:

You're country exists because a group of British Nerds decided it should exist. There was never a country called greece ever until that point. You aren't the Byzantines. They spoke greek but viewed themselves as romans. You aren't romans, you aren't the ottomans, you aren't any of those. You're greatest ruler and the only one to fully unify greece was't even greek he was Macedonian. STFU. You stupid nationalist. Don't go ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ on other nations when you're bankrupt country has never been successful on it's own without outside help.

So it would be more correct to say Greece is Macedonian.

[SGT Spack 7]

Originally posted by AN:

Greece is a fake country, never a unified state of its own until it was invented by western europeans in recent history. Macedonia existed loudly, creating a massive empire, for centuries, with over 2000 years of history. Given the reality of ancient history, more accurately greece would just be extended macedonia, compared to the other way around.

How can someone be nationalistic over a country, and a debt riddled failed-state at that, that never existed under its own power and have any self respect?

Macedonia existed yes in ancient greece, as usual slavs colonists trying to pretend they have a claim to the land

[thats crazy]

i think you mean turkish

ottomans own macedonia for 1000 years

[Subaru]

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