Republican Spain always wins the Spanish Civil War (without La Resistance)

[jr3050t]

Playing historical without La Resistance. I've only seen Republican Spain (Communist) win the Spanish Civil War unless I intervene on the Nationalist side. The Republicans winning is not historical and used to be a very rare but not impossible result. Intervention is obviously not possible if playing a Democratic or Non-Aligned country.
Later Germany and the Soviet Union go to war, Republican Spain joins the Comintern and immediately attacks Vichy France. The allies have a race to liberate France with Spain (plus Sov reinforcements). All not very historical.
I've played maybe six games since Gotterdammerung (which I do not own) using only NsB, MtG and BBA and only seen Communist victories in Spain. Is this broken at the moment?

[Citizen X]

Ouch, yeah im sorry to hear that. Its honestly pretty difficult to have a Historical experience, unless you play Germany and do Everything yourself. This title is like $200 with all DLC and you still need mods or console commands to make sure Historical Mode works properly.

Germany got reworked TWICE, and it STILL skips the Nordic campaign after Poland! Werent the Focus Trees designed to guide the game on rails? How can the pacing still be messed up after TWO reworks AND guiderails? Its incredible

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by Citizen X:

Ouch, yeah im sorry to hear that. Its honestly pretty difficult to have a Historical experience, unless you play Germany and do Everything yourself. This title is like $200 with all DLC and you still need mods or console commands to make sure Historical Mode works properly.

Germany got reworked TWICE, and it STILL skips the Nordic campaign after Poland! Werent the Focus Trees designed to guide the game on rails? How can the pacing still be messed up after TWO reworks AND guiderails? Its incredible

What game are you playing? Germany basically always does Operation Weserubung for me.....

[CH13F]

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

Originally posted by Citizen X:

Ouch, yeah im sorry to hear that. Its honestly pretty difficult to have a Historical experience, unless you play Germany and do Everything yourself. This title is like $200 with all DLC and you still need mods or console commands to make sure Historical Mode works properly.

Germany got reworked TWICE, and it STILL skips the Nordic campaign after Poland! Werent the Focus Trees designed to guide the game on rails? How can the pacing still be messed up after TWO reworks AND guiderails? Its incredible

What game are you playing? Germany basically always does Operation Weserubung for me.....

normally yes, but and but if you interfere and weaken germany ,then no. like grabing czech and austrian lands before them. then they cant even push back soviets and lose war very very early. hell they hardly beat western front in that case.

this s not a case only for germany tho, you can make any major go offrails by some diplomacy,espionage and early conquest.

anyway, yes, i seen germany has to skip scandinavia many many times, also i seen italy occupied nordlands many many times. ofc germany does the focus but that doesnt mean AI has the military might to declare.

i said before, AI is stupid but not that stupid, if it thinks it cant win easily then it doesnt go to war.

for ex, twice i formed nordic unity, once with sweden, once with denmark, in both cases germany justified or had wargoals multiple times, it didnt dare to declare on me. similar things happened again when i formed austria-hungary, great yugoslavia or baltic commonwealth.

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by CH13F:

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

What game are you playing? Germany basically always does Operation Weserubung for me.....

normally yes, but and but if you interfere and weaken germany ,then no. like grabing czech and austrian lands before them. then they cant even push back soviets and lose war very very early. hell they hardly beat western front in that case.

this s not a case only for germany tho, you can make any major go offrails by some diplomacy,espionage and early conquest.

anyway, yes, i seen germany has to skip scandinavia many many times, also i seen italy occupied nordlands many many times. ofc germany does the focus but that doesnt mean AI has the military might to declare.

i said before, AI is stupid but not that stupid, if it thinks it cant win easily then it doesnt go to war.

for ex, twice i formed nordic unity, once with sweden, once with denmark, in both cases germany justified or had wargoals multiple times, it didnt dare to declare on me. similar things happened again when i formed austria-hungary, great yugoslavia or baltic commonwealth.

Well of course if you interfere with the timeline it's not gonna be the same. Duh

[CH13F]

thats what im saying, yes there s a timeline/historical order but that doesnt mean AI will succeed each times. Sometimes it doesnt even need player intervention, even in historical. such cases can develop on their own. and becomes an anomaly

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by CH13F:

thats what im saying, yes there s a timeline/historical order but that doesnt mean AI will succeed each times. Sometimes it doesnt even need player intervention, even in historical. such cases can develop on their own. and becomes an anomaly

Cool story, but the issue here is that Citizen X is claiming Germany never does the nordic campaign BY DEFAULT, which is obviously a misrepresentation of the facts.

[CH13F]

Originally posted by Citizen X:

Ouch, yeah im sorry to hear that. Its honestly pretty difficult to have a Historical experience, unless you play Germany and do Everything yourself. This title is like $200 with all DLC and you still need mods or console commands to make sure Historical Mode works properly.

Germany got reworked TWICE, and it STILL skips the Nordic campaign after Poland! Werent the Focus Trees designed to guide the game on rails? How can the pacing still be messed up after TWO reworks AND guiderails? Its incredible

did you mean NEVER or SOMETIMES?

[jr3050t]

Originally posted by Citizen X:

Ouch, yeah im sorry to hear that. Its honestly pretty difficult to have a Historical experience, unless you play Germany and do Everything yourself. This title is like $200 with all DLC and you still need mods or console commands to make sure Historical Mode works properly.

Germany got reworked TWICE, and it STILL skips the Nordic campaign after Poland! Werent the Focus Trees designed to guide the game on rails? How can the pacing still be messed up after TWO reworks AND guiderails? Its incredible

Yep "deleteallunits SPR" does the job. I've not seen GER skip the Nordic campaign but I normally keep semi historical until 1939 e.g. USA joins the war as France falls or SOV sends air volunteers to the UK.

[Brucato]

I dunno....I have NEVER seen Republican Spain win. But then, I am not very DLC'd up.

[jr3050t]

Originally posted by Brucato:

I dunno....I have NEVER seen Republican Spain win. But then, I am not very DLC'd up.

La Resistance (which I don't own) completely reworks the Spanish Civil war (as well as adding Spy Agencies which just looks like a lot of complication to gain collaboration governments). I guess that the Devs only have time to balance test the historical game with all DLCs.

[Citizen X]

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

What game are you playing? Germany basically always does Operation Weserubung for me.....

Good for you. Your experience isnt the same as everyone else's

[Citizen X]

Originally posted by CH13F:

Originally posted by Citizen X:

Ouch, yeah im sorry to hear that. Its honestly pretty difficult to have a Historical experience, unless you play Germany and do Everything yourself. This title is like $200 with all DLC and you still need mods or console commands to make sure Historical Mode works properly.

Germany got reworked TWICE, and it STILL skips the Nordic campaign after Poland! Werent the Focus Trees designed to guide the game on rails? How can the pacing still be messed up after TWO reworks AND guiderails? Its incredible

did you mean NEVER or SOMETIMES?

For me Personally, it's Never. Always ruins my game, because I play Italy and I have goals against France.

I have to Console Command, and select Focuses for Germany for them so they don't "Pressure toward Benelux" in November. Don't know what else to do

[Citizen X]

Originally posted by jr3050t:

Yep "deleteallunits SPR" does the job. I've not seen GER skip the Nordic campaign but I normally keep semi historical until 1939 e.g. USA joins the war as France falls or SOV sends air volunteers to the UK.

In my own opinion, the developers have designed the game in a way that 'forces' WW2 to take place.

If the ONLY purpose of this game is to 'fight WW2', then it really doesnt matter when USA joins the Allies. What matters is that they join at all. For a studio trying to sell a WW2 game to Mass audience, they probably just want alot of action going on so players dont get bored, or something.

Very sad, because as the rest of us know, USA joining the Allies in 1939 would have MASSIVE consequences. There is no strategy here; you're just supposed to click buttons and conquer the whole map = dopamine hit

[AdmiralPiett]

Originally posted by Citizen X:

Originally posted by AdmiralPiett:

What game are you playing? Germany basically always does Operation Weserubung for me.....

Good for you. Your experience isnt the same as everyone else's

And yours is?


You are famous for spreading lies and exaggerations on here

[Blind]

Originally posted by jr3050t:

Playing historical without La Resistance. I've only seen Republican Spain (Communist) win the Spanish Civil War unless I intervene on the Nationalist side. The Republicans winning is not historical and used to be a very rare but not impossible result. Intervention is obviously not possible if playing a Democratic or Non-Aligned country.
Later Germany and the Soviet Union go to war, Republican Spain joins the Comintern and immediately attacks Vichy France. The allies have a race to liberate France with Spain (plus Sov reinforcements). All not very historical.
I've played maybe six games since Gotterdammerung (which I do not own) using only NsB, MtG and BBA and only seen Communist victories in Spain. Is this broken at the moment?

I liked that you needed to intervene in order to guarantee nationalist victory. It was like a fun minigame before the big war kicked off. Also great way to get my tanks maxed out on xp and a few general levels.