Why Marco Polo Bridge as Japan?

[Stretchytall]

Is there any good reason to choose the Marco Polo Bridge Incident when you're playing as Japan? It has such awful debuffs, so why choose it? Why not just wait for China to attack your infrastructure and then declare war without the MP Bridge Incident?

[Thefallen501st]

its faster and the debuffs arent that bad if u properly build for them and just wait to get rid of the debuffs vanilla china is very bad at defending themselves from a prepared Japan

[Stretchytall]

Originally posted by Thefallen501st:

its faster and the debuffs arent that bad if u properly build for them and just wait to get rid of the debuffs vanilla china is very bad at defending themselves from a prepared Japan

Does that require attacking China early? I'm in March 1939 in my current playthrough. Is it too late to take advantage of the Marco Polo Bridge focus?

[pjd110]

Originally posted by Stretchytall:

Originally posted by Thefallen501st:

its faster and the debuffs arent that bad if u properly build for them and just wait to get rid of the debuffs vanilla china is very bad at defending themselves from a prepared Japan

Does that require attacking China early? I'm in March 1939 in my current playthrough. Is it too late to take advantage of the Marco Polo Bridge focus?

Kind of late. You should defeat China before attacking anyone else.

[Icevail]

I never pick it, I just wait for the chinese to throw the first punch, gives free annex war goal to both rep and com china with no demerits, and gives enough time to build collabs to fast cap the whole faction once the war starts.

But if you want to play historical, well, yeah, picking it up is pretty much a must.

[General WVPM]

It comes down to why fight china to begin with?
China has little to no strategic value. It has no real industry or resources and it doesn't provide a useful base of attack (unlike Belgium for Germany).

You can fight China for roleplay, because it's historical or simply to grind xp.
Fighting China later on does not help you in any way. You should be conquering Malay, Burma, Indonesia & India by 1940-1941. China only ties down your army and prevents it being used elsewhere.

In multiplayer you should quickly kill a China player as Japan as the China player will likely attack you at some point (when you're busy elsewhere).

[Stretchytall]

Originally posted by Icevail:

time to build collabs.

How exactly do you build collaborations? I still don't understand faction dynamics or what to do with them.

[mr noob]

you need a dlc

[mr noob]

But I'm guessing you them so build a spy agency via the tab to the left then put your spies in China, wait until you have 50% network, find the mission that says collab, and commence it

[Icevail]

Originally posted by General WVPM:

China has little to no strategic value. It has no real industry or resources and it doesn't provide a useful base of attack (unlike Belgium for Germany).

To be fair only the warlord around hong kong is worthwhile to take on from mainland china, it has the most raw resources from the bunch.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by General WVPM:

Fighting China later on does not help you in any way. You should be conquering Malay, Burma, Indonesia & India by 1940-1941. China only ties down your army and prevents it being used elsewhere.
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I do not see why you should not conquer China and do the same as you said in 1940-1941

In time China grow a lot and becoming real powerhouse - which means it is both harder deal it with it later and also quite useful have it asap as puppet and let it grow.