No step back has to be the worst dlc this game have got so far.

[Delicia Suprema]

Focus trees for 3 outta 4 countries that nobody plays and it is not worth it playing.
Supply mechanic kills combat in certain ways.
Building supply takes 150 days. Are you f4cking kidding me ?
Soviet ai is complete retarded. Worst than before. Soviet comeback never happens.
Tank designer s4cks completely. They havent even modeled new variation of tanks so that it would look to your creation.
Tanks breakthrough is also affected making tanks useless. How do they f4ck this up ?

The only dlc that was great was waking the tiger.

[Big Moustache]

You can get a once per game buff to build supply depots at 300% speed. It lasts 120 days or when third hub is finished... As a major you can cheese this to build +10 hubs in 3 months. Than there is the air supply and railroads system. It is much cheaper to improve infrastructure and railroads than building a new depot

引用自 Delicia Suprema：

引用自 Ogami：

You build supply depots and rails BEFORE the war starts so you have a decent supply system in place.
After the fighting starts its much better to capture enemy supply depots.

How you gonna build supply on siberia if you're japan ???????

How you gonna build supply before invading someone with bad supply areas ? It doesnt make sense.

People often use the argument its how war works. Well you guys know how a video game works ? Hoi4 is slow as it is im not gonna wait 150 days to build a freaking warehouse.

[Ogami]

引用自 Delicia Suprema：

How you gonna build supply on siberia if you're japan ???????

How you gonna build supply before invading someone with bad supply areas ? It doesnt make sense.

People often use the argument its how war works. Well you guys know how a video game works ? Hoi4 is slow as it is im not gonna wait 150 days to build a freaking warehouse.

Thats what transport planes are for. If you have enough you can supply your entire frontline army with supply mission drops.

[Totally Not Trotsky]

1. A decent amount of people play Poland, and the Estonian and Lithuanian trees are pretty good imo. I havent played latvia yet tho.
2. Build ports. They give a supply hub. Also, motorize your supply.
3. That would take a ♥♥♥♥ ton of work to model every cannon and every hull for every turret for every major. And thats not even getting into the extra stuff. As for the designer itself, I like it because I can make tanks with a lot of soft attack and still have them be tanks not spgs, among other reasons.
4. They just patched this, buffing tanks by making them cheaper and I believe giving more breakthrough.
Waking the tiger was a great DLC tho

[TheCr33pur]

引用自 Oleg Jughashvili：

引用自 TheCr33pur：

Knew many players not gonna like this, sadly they wasted their money on it. I dont think i will ever come back to this game, just utterly garbage.

Better off playing third series, but many complain it was too complex. But there are some good ones like Darkest Hours AoD too. Dont forget to check out Matrix site, got some nice war games as well. That War in the East is nice, but very expensive. Just have to pay attention when on sale, etc.

war in the east 2 is getting slated in the reviews

I got the first one, didnt really get into it. Then i saw part two for that much? No thanks, just too expensive and if they give players a 50% discount for owning the first series then it okay.

I think they improve it very little, something with air groups, etc. Just isnt worth no eighty bucks for sure.

[»SoD« Mike Hunt]

The game is made for Wehraboos, Soviets always dying shouldn't be surprising.

[Dagoth Brain Made Of Tired]

HAHAHA no just your opinion man but if you look around its wrong

[Magni]

OP, you're not everybody. There are, in fact, people who enjoy playing minors.

引用自 sjeremy777：

I agree with you. I'm still on my first supply hub in peace time and it's taking for freaking ever. It shouldn't take a half a year to build a supply hub. It's basically just a warehouse. It does make it more realistic though in that is how war actually works. Supply is one of the largest aspects of running a war. One problem that Germany ran into in its war against Russia was oil and maintenance of their many tanks. It just needs to be implemented a little bit better I think. Also, thought, you can boost your supply hubs by expanding your railroad infrastructure and developing railroad is a much quicker process.

No, it's not "just a warehouse". These are strategic-level logistics nodes. Like, we're talking major railway hubs with extensive warehousing and loading/unloading capacity here. This isn't some divisional supply dump, it's something on the scale of supplying entire armies or even army groups, an operation easily the size of a small town. You don't build that in a day.

引用自 Delicia Suprema：

How you gonna build supply on siberia if you're japan ???????

You don't. Gee, it's almost as if invading SIberia is a really stupid idea that should be seriously painful if you absolutely insist on going through with it.

How you gonna build supply before invading someone with bad supply areas ? It doesnt make sense.

You bring less more supply-efficient units and then either push slowly while upgrading your railways and hubs as you go, while also using air supply to assist. Or you break open the front and dash to the next enemy supply hub with your mobile units.

Or I suppose you could just terminally overload the local supply lines and try to push through by brute force and lose a ton of men. And then declare that it's the game that's a fault for your poor decisionmaking. If that makes you feel better about it.

[Blue Foot]

My main issue is just how much slower the game runs now. Absolutely ridiculous.

[Sgt. Steiner]

Until they finally allow us to edit the "devices" in WitE2, I am disappointed. And we're talking way over a year on this missing element (pardon the pun).

Way too many games I have, but have to come to grips that most hours of all (except Steel Panthers) is HOIV. Odd thing is that is without any DLC. But I greatly appreciate the honest DLC reviews of the experts. Best wishes!

[TheDongsmasher]

"Let me just press 2 buttons, draw 1 line and let the game play itself. Oh no, our supply line, it's broken!"

In short - you're wrong. Plus juvenile for trying to circumvent the profanity filter. Very edgy!

[SGT Spack 7]

do gotta love that they will rework a supply and tank system that didnt really need it and make focus trees for ridiculous countries and yet THEY STILL havent fixed peace deals the most broken aspect of this game.

[Big Moustache]

引用自 SGT Spack 7：

do gotta love that they will rework a supply and tank system that didnt really need it and make focus trees for ridiculous countries and yet THEY STILL havent fixed peace deals the most broken aspect of this game.

Like fixing the Spanish cw. They ''fixed it'' to the point i no longer touch it with anything non fascist. Not because it needed fixing either, just spiteful devs that can not stomach players outsmarting them with their own tools. Lets break having fun out and than replace it for +1000% tedious crap, oh! And make it rng!! (Hmm should we ask €20 for this MAYOR update? No... let's get payed in salt this one time!!)

I am talking about Stalin volunteers, sure it is still possible... but where the frak is the fun in it? Can anyone please show me? It's supposed to be a fun videogame not a tedious full time job, for a ungrateful boss, who favors everything and everyone above you.

[Noldo]

Also, one of the main problems is Allies unable to coordinate their units from 20+ countries, leading to omnipresent overloading of supply, which leads to complete paralysis.

[Newtz]

In this thread> Whiney teenagers with the attention span of a goat

[Fourth stage]

引用自 Blue Foot：

My main issue is just how much slower the game runs now. Absolutely ridiculous.

true, main reason why i no longer play hoi4 tbh