Hearts of Iron IV

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ErZioTom Feb 14, 2024 @ 8:33am
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GERMANY IS NAZIST !!!
this fact is serious, that in this game, the Nazi Hitler is defined as a fascist. it is serious, a distortion of reality and of what happened in the past. Fix it immediately, GERMANY WAS NAZI NOT FASCIST.
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ErZioTom Feb 14, 2024 @ 11:10pm 
it is serious to distort the past, fascism is not Nazism.
Immortalis Feb 14, 2024 @ 11:18pm 
Originally posted by ErZioTom:
it is serious to distort the past, fascism is not Nazism.

Nor is Maoism equal to Stalinism and neither is the same thing as Lenin’ communism (not to mention Lenin himself changed the fundamental characteristics of his ideology more than once).
But it’s a game and so all similar ideologies are grouped under the same banner, to avoid having to create 200 different ideologies that might or might not apply to the individual country.

It’s not distorting history.
pjd110 Feb 15, 2024 @ 10:34am 
Not a major issue even is HOI4 was a household name. It doesn't include a holocaust mechanic either. Is it denying the holocaust? It not like people play this game as part of their education. OP must have been drunk when posting to be so over-bearing.
Zeno Feb 15, 2024 @ 10:55am 
Originally posted by ErZioTom:
this fact is serious, that in this game, the Nazi Hitler is defined as a fascist. it is serious, a distortion of reality and of what happened in the past. Fix it immediately, GERMANY WAS NAZI NOT FASCIST.

But National socialism is also fascist.
Autumn Feb 15, 2024 @ 12:42pm 
Originally posted by Cyborg92:
Originally posted by ErZioTom:
this fact is serious, that in this game, the Nazi Hitler is defined as a fascist. it is serious, a distortion of reality and of what happened in the past. Fix it immediately, GERMANY WAS NAZI NOT FASCIST.

But National socialism is also fascist.

Next you're going to tell me that a square is a rectangle, librul.
Zeno Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:19pm 
Originally posted by Toast:
Originally posted by Cyborg92:

But National socialism is also fascist.

Next you're going to tell me that a square is a rectangle, librul.

You can call it what you want, but anyone with an adequate education will consider national socialism as a fascist ideology.

Communism was also fascist by the way.

Now everyone who leaves his house once in a while, also knows that MOST people on the planet, associate " fascism " with " national socialism ", so everyone knows what the bloody game means and refers to.

I am from Germany, we literally invented national socialism, if I say the umbrella of fascism covers it, then it does. lol.
Hussar Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:32pm 
You need to go back to school. Nazism is fascism.
Tennozan Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by Cyborg92:
Originally posted by Toast:

Next you're going to tell me that a square is a rectangle, librul.

You can call it what you want, but anyone with an adequate education will consider national socialism as a fascist ideology.

Communism was also fascist by the way.

Now everyone who leaves his house once in a while, also knows that MOST people on the planet, associate " fascism " with " national socialism ", so everyone knows what the bloody game means and refers to.

I am from Germany, we literally invented national socialism, if I say the umbrella of fascism covers it, then it does. lol.

Yup - spot on.
Tennozan Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:35pm 
By the way, there is no "t" in the word Nazi.

At least Winston Churchill got the pronunciation right.
Zeno Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:35pm 
Originally posted by Tennozan:
Originally posted by Cyborg92:

You can call it what you want, but anyone with an adequate education will consider national socialism as a fascist ideology.

Communism was also fascist by the way.

Now everyone who leaves his house once in a while, also knows that MOST people on the planet, associate " fascism " with " national socialism ", so everyone knows what the bloody game means and refers to.

I am from Germany, we literally invented national socialism, if I say the umbrella of fascism covers it, then it does. lol.

Yup - spot on.

Right?

I don't get what this whole thread is about and how there are people who seriously don't get this. Sounds like a bunch of actual nazis trying to sell me that national socialism is a humanistic ideology.
Autumn Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by Cyborg92:
Originally posted by Toast:

Next you're going to tell me that a square is a rectangle, librul.

You can call it what you want, but anyone with an adequate education will consider national socialism as a fascist ideology.

Communism was also fascist by the way.

Now everyone who leaves his house once in a while, also knows that MOST people on the planet, associate " fascism " with " national socialism ", so everyone knows what the bloody game means and refers to.

I am from Germany, we literally invented national socialism, if I say the umbrella of fascism covers it, then it does. lol.

Please learn basic shapes before you talk about political theory. Squares are rectangles. What I said was a joke. I was agreeing with you.

Also, Communism isn't a form of fascism, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.
Zeno Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:46pm 
Originally posted by Toast:
Originally posted by Cyborg92:

You can call it what you want, but anyone with an adequate education will consider national socialism as a fascist ideology.

Communism was also fascist by the way.

Now everyone who leaves his house once in a while, also knows that MOST people on the planet, associate " fascism " with " national socialism ", so everyone knows what the bloody game means and refers to.

I am from Germany, we literally invented national socialism, if I say the umbrella of fascism covers it, then it does. lol.

Please learn basic shapes before you talk about political theory. Squares are rectangles. What I said was a joke. I was agreeing with you.

Also, Communism isn't a form of fascism, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.

Its Steam, do you expect me to detect your sarcasm ?
Its literally a forum where people claim that the earth is flat and they went out to play laser tag with uncle hitler.

Communist systems have so far always applied fascist measures and acted fascist towards its own population and are therefore fascist to me as well.
Maybe not in theory on paper.
Last edited by Zeno; Feb 15, 2024 @ 1:46pm
hanspni Feb 15, 2024 @ 4:46pm 
Originally posted by Tennozan:
By the way, there is no "t" in the word Nazi.

At least Winston Churchill got the pronunciation right.
He is probably from Norway or another nordic country. We write Nazi as Nazist.
Last edited by hanspni; Feb 15, 2024 @ 4:47pm
hanspni Feb 15, 2024 @ 4:59pm 
Originally posted by Cyborg92:
Originally posted by Toast:

Please learn basic shapes before you talk about political theory. Squares are rectangles. What I said was a joke. I was agreeing with you.

Also, Communism isn't a form of fascism, that's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid.

Its Steam, do you expect me to detect your sarcasm ?
Its literally a forum where people claim that the earth is flat and they went out to play laser tag with uncle hitler.

Communist systems have so far always applied fascist measures and acted fascist towards its own population and are therefore fascist to me as well.
Maybe not in theory on paper.
Communism and facism is not the same at all. Even do they are both totalitarian ideologi. The fundament in communism is that everybody gets what they need and everybody will work for the society and state for free. That`s the ideologi of Marx and Engels. Facism is a cooprativ together with private buisness. Facist Italy even had a King. Stalin/Lenin killed their Tsar. They even killed everybody who ovned something like a farm or some cows. Nobody should own anything in communism, just get what u need from the state. But the world don`t work like that. Kina communism if it is communism at all have a free marked. That`s not communism at all. It was under Mao, but now only in name. I have study this subject in the past when i was student at university. I can tell u communism and facism is not the same.
Poseidonram1944 Feb 16, 2024 @ 12:48am 
♥♥♥♥ off wehraboo. Hortler and his band of drugged up psychopaths were fascists. Arguing the semantics of dead ideologies serves only to distract from the blood-soaked elefant in the room.
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