How do you get out of a stalemate?

[someguyboymanperson]

Currently I'm playing kaiserreich as the Italian State, although this situation isn't limited to this playthrough specifically. I'm currently just holding against Germany with no real push in sight and im not sure how to proceed from here if not just waiting until the war unfolds around me. My inf are regular 18 width with arty support and I have 12 decent divisions which are an assortment of 10/3/1 Inf/Arty/AA and a couple mountaineers. I have aiir supremacy but can't make more planes becuase my rubber supply has been cut off and I'm still waiting for synthetic rubber tech (stupid mistake.) I have some screenshots if it helps.

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198842836684/screenshot/2504634631908605921/
https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198842836684/screenshot/2504634631908648833/

I'm not sure how to push from here so all help is appreciated. Thanks!

[Albert Lollipop]

try training strong units, like 15 of them, and putting a small frontline to break the stalemate.

[someguyboymanperson]

Originally posted by Albert Lollipop:

try training strong units, like 15 of them, and putting a small frontline to break the stalemate.

I do have like 12 good units but If i just shove them all in a battle they'll just fill up the combat width and I wont even be able to use all of them. Plus, I can't make much more mountaineers and the entire front line is mostly rivers and mountains, which, to be fair, cuts both ways but isn't really helping the push. Are the units that I'm using good? I'm not really sure what I should be using. Right now i have 10/3/1 inf/arty/aa for pushing.

[Maya-Neko]

If you're the stronger country then you've pretty much 3 possible way:
- try to make the frontline longer (especially easy to do, if you've valueless land you can let them leek into)
- retreat to lure them out of their fortification and attack afterwards
- research and invest into paratroopers and cut their supply lines off.
- grind down their manpower and units with constant pressure

If you're the weaker country:
- maximize the defensive bonuses and accept the stalement for now
- Grind the opponents manpower down through devision designs specifically made to counter them
- shorten the frontline, so that you can maximize the defense per province and making it harder for the opponent to break through (but not so short, that the opponent doesn't want to attack anymore)
-> and after a while (can take like 2-3 years, if you can hold on for so long, for example China needs that time against Japan), the opponent will eventually get manpower problems, this tactic usually works best, if the death ratio is above like 1:10 (or you're china and manpower is meaningless for you anyway^^)

If you're roughly similar in strength:
- try to get strong units specifically build around breaking through enemy lines (mostly medium tanks and motorized infantry) and try to encircle them bit by bit. Obviously can be done in the other situations as well, especially when you're stronger. Might also work on the weaker side, but obviously don't use so many factories for it, that your defense suffers.

[someguyboymanperson]

Originally posted by Maya-Neko:

-> and after a while (can take like 2-3 years, if you can hold on for so long, for example China needs that time against Japan), the opponent will eventually get manpower problems, this tactic usually works best, if the death ratio is above like 1:10 (or you're china and manpower is meaningless for you anyway^^)

I don't think that strategy is going to work for me because I'll end up running out of manpower before they do (especially if im not able to make encirclements and the like,) and even if I do get to a position where they're out of manpower I'm pretty sure Germany will have capitulated to France or Russia by then anyways. Like, I'm sure I can win eventually if I wait long enough just due to the sheer amount of strength of countries on my side, and I have as other countries before, but if I ever end up doing so it won't really be of my own accord, rather just because of the war developing around me.

Originally posted by Maya-Neko:

- try to get strong units specifically build around breaking through enemy lines (mostly medium tanks and motorized infantry) and try to encircle them bit by bit. Obviously can be done in the other situations as well, especially when you're stronger. Might also work on the weaker side, but obviously don't use so many factories for it, that your defense suffers.

My defense would probably be strong enough right now to support tanks but I'm not sure how well they would do in my terrain. I forgot to say, my border with them is mostly mountains and rivers, so infantry might be neccesary for an advance. Maybe I could try a naval invasion? I'm not sure if that's a good idea though, and I'd have to cut out my mountaineers for it.

[Maya-Neko]

Originally posted by someguyboymanperson:

My defense would probably be strong enough right now to support tanks but I'm not sure how well they would do in my terrain. I forgot to say, my border with them is mostly mountains and rivers, so infantry might be neccesary for an advance. Maybe I could try a naval invasion? I'm not sure if that's a good idea though, and I'd have to cut out my mountaineers for it.

The thing is, that infantry doesn't really come with that much breakthrough and hardness, so attacking with them is always quite wasteful. Obviously you could try, but as you've said, you're already running the risk of running out of manpower before them. That's why defending is usually better as attack, since it's easier to stack bonuses as a defender. And you can also see it on the 2nd screenshot. The fight where you're attacking you're loosing, while the areas the opponents attack you're winning. That's just the advantage of defending.

And sure, if you've spare units, then going for naval attacks is also an option. Though it might go to france, if you're starting from french ground

[Missouri]

Personally I wouldn't try to push in this area, without nukes at least. Leave mountaineers to defend, or another army of your choice.
If naval invasion from France is possible, go for it. Try to move and expand as fast as possible. Keep air superiority and bring more CAS.
You are out of fuel by the way.

[Big [REDACTED] Marty]

nuke the frontline into a glowing glass parking lot, airbases too

[Scarlet]

Artillery, Artillery, Artillery

[JayPeePee]

CAS