Impossible to Play a Historical Game With a Useless AI USSR ?

[Joviel]

I've found the game disappointing since it seems impossible for the war to follow anything close to an historical course since AI Russia always folds. Makes playing the game as any other major power as you will always be facing a Germany unhindered by the Russian bear. This is obviously ahistorical. I'm not looking for the game to always follow history but that should be one of the likely paths. Am I missing something here?

[Common]

You can use custom game rules and slightly buff the Soviet Union

[HappySack]

I had to stop using the expert AI mod because Germany kept losing before America even joined the Allies, also because I'm bad.

[mk11]

If you are the UK or USA are you supporting the USSR? For other nations part of the issue is that the AI UK and USA do not support the USSR. Part of that is because the USA production is heavily gimped relative to historical

[luftatmer]

Publicado originalmente por mk11:

If you are the UK or USA are you supporting the USSR? For other nations part of the issue is that the AI UK and USA do not support the USSR. Part of that is because the USA production is heavily gimped relative to historical

This. In history the Soviet Union got pumped up to the nines by the Allies. This would have been your job now, which clearly you didn’t follow through.

You can only expect „historical“ -ish events if you yourself act equally like it was in the history book. That goes for all your decisions.

Kind of a workaround: You can buff the Soviet Union at the starting options.

[Fort Mark]

Every AI play through I've seen lately, the Soviets hold then push back the Germans.

[Space Marine]

I would not recommend buffing the Soviets, not even by the most basic buff. The Soviet AI when buffed becomes really strong compared to regular AI without buffs and it ends up with Germany dying by millions trying to push into Ukraine/Belarus/Lithuania.
What you can do is give them planes, mostly good Fighter Designs. Germany usually has air superiority, especially with Medium Bombers/CAS, so that absolutely wrecks the Soviets eventually.
Giving them tanks isn't that much of a priority, so focus on Planes, Support Equipment, Trains and Motorized. Convoys, if you have some to spare, as they'll use those to trade Rubber, as they lack this specific resource to build planes

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actually before STEP NO BACK，soviet union is even weaker...

[󠁳 ⁧HardLimiter]

For me, the bigger "AI" problems are:
Mates still stay in their own country in wars, they don´t send troops to border.
Puppets can start a war against you, if they have a focus. Or can leave you, start a war against other countries - EVEN AS PUPPET.

There is no reason to make puppets if they have a own focus tree.
The basic, empty focus tree is the best for puppets.

They should really should make an option for us to say yes/no if a puppet want to start a war or something else.

Puppets can ruin your game really fast.

Best example, happened to me:

My puppet started a war against two nations, left and joined enemy.
Yea, thanks for that.

[eiaeiaalala]

Publicado originalmente por luftatmer:

Publicado originalmente por mk11:

If you are the UK or USA are you supporting the USSR? For other nations part of the issue is that the AI UK and USA do not support the USSR. Part of that is because the USA production is heavily gimped relative to historical

This. In history the Soviet Union got pumped up to the nines by the Allies. This would have been your job now, which clearly you didn’t follow through.

You can only expect „historical“ -ish events if you yourself act equally like it was in the history book. That goes for all your decisions.

Kind of a workaround: You can buff the Soviet Union at the starting options.

As user mk11 pointed out above, propping up the USSR with lend-lease is difficult since American factory numbers are nerfed by orders of magnitude for the sake of game balance. There was a thread somewhere - alas, I lost track of it - in which a user weaponised his autism to show that if one in-game plane really = one plane and one ship = one ship, as Paradox states, then unmodded HOI4 USA only can produce a small fraction of the ships and planes IRL USA produced during the war.

Paradox's "balance" tweaks have been a continual process of nerfing and un-nerfing the powers, which unfortunately seem to break "historical" WWII in different ways every time. Thankfully there is the Expert AI mod that somewhat mitigates the problem.

[johnknott]

Since No Step Back I find AI Germany never beats AI Soviet Union because the AI can't build supply hubs.

But this may have changed a bit since AAT because of the high jinx from the Finns.

[Joviel]

Publicado originalmente por luftatmer:

Publicado originalmente por mk11:

If you are the UK or USA are you supporting the USSR? For other nations part of the issue is that the AI UK and USA do not support the USSR. Part of that is because the USA production is heavily gimped relative to historical

This. In history the Soviet Union got pumped up to the nines by the Allies. This would have been your job now, which clearly you didn’t follow through.

You can only expect „historical“ -ish events if you yourself act equally like it was in the history book. That goes for all your decisions.

Kind of a workaround: You can buff the Soviet Union at the starting options.

Thanks, but my situation is that I am trying to play neither US, UK or USSR. Playing France for example. I can hold the Germans until they destroy the Russians and then comes the deluge. If Germany can beat Russia while fighting an active Western Front we have a very ahistorical situation.

[Bored Peon]

It aint the Russian AI sucks, it is all the changes since the game was first released.

When the game first came out Russia used to turn the tide against Germany and pound the snot out out of Germany in like every game.

Well since then they made so many game mechanics and buffed so many minors that RARELY ever happens anymore.

If you play ahistorical Russia caves very easily which usually makes Germany superpowered. Although others like Japan and Poland become the superpower.