Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

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HerrBlitz (Banned) Feb 10, 2024 @ 3:05pm
America Rebellion
So instead of splitting the troops, so that a template switch and some shenanigans could make this a simple war to achieve the simple desired result in a video game thats a sand box this is what paradox does. I tag switched to see when the constitutional states would spawn with and no ♥♥♥♥, dozens of level 5 veteran units spawned from NO WHERE the anti air units were there as well and even some of them were now level 5 Veteran. Not to mention this happens based on a timer you cant see and have very little control over, if it pops before you get your focuses, game over. and this takes an hour to get to sometimes more. Ive tried this a few times and until i looked at what is spawned for them I didnt get it. Why even offer the choice if its just gonna be contrived garbage that leads you to an almost unwinnable situation? How has America not been fixed yet? I was hoping that with the new DLCs the countries would have more flavor and play options. Instead every single country is the same. worse, or just stupid. I can reform the Byzantine has Greece, but the idea of Facist America is so impossible its actively rigged against the average player almost to impossibility, and they will patch every single little exploit to make it easier, but not the country itself which delivers the worst experience the game has to offer. Waiting simulator into a gamble on whether i can get enough focuses done to survive the civil war i have no way of knowing anything about, but Stalin gets paranoia and Mussolini gets like a cabinet of fat italians. Meanwhile I can beat the allies by 37 with Germany cause LOL. That last one is for the brigade of fat kids who are gonna say something along the lines of "WELL HISTORICALLY!!!" Amelia Earhart is a facist ace pilot, and the hindenberg survived in one game. please shut up.

That being said if anyone knows a good exploit for this war please share, paradox has locked the division templates so you cant even just console command and delete them. Further proof that Paradox wants that option soft locked for some reason.
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Autumn Feb 10, 2024 @ 3:21pm 
I mean yeah, that's how civil wars actually work. Military groups with absolutely no relation to the original government show up. Those are militias, international volunteers, mercenaries and private security, and so on. They shouldn't be veterans but they should absolutely be there.
Somethings Burnin Feb 10, 2024 @ 4:27pm 
Paradox is trying so hard not to offend any certain sect of their customer base they arent giving the history and alternate history any true flavor. Not sure Paradox knows what they want HOI4 or more specifically HOI5 to be. Is it a 1930's world simulation or WWII game?

Only real solution to your situation in the US. Console commands to get the game where you would like it then go back to playing. Eliminate the super units or all their troops and just take over and play. Hell its your game, do whatever you like. Because for a while, without mods, and the direction they are going the game is a poor simulation of WW2. Look no further than the lastest DLC announcement...
HerrBlitz (Banned) Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:36pm 
Originally posted by Toast:
I mean yeah, that's how civil wars actually work. Military groups with absolutely no relation to the original government show up. Those are militias, international volunteers, mercenaries and private security, and so on. They shouldn't be veterans but they should absolutely be there.
You didnt read the post. this is a game. i am creating the revolution through focuses in a game. I am trying to get foreign support and aid in a game, when i do the revolution works. when i dont it fails. it takes like over an hour to get there, id like a gauge or some way to know what the pressure looks like or how to control it so i can set myself up in a game for what i want to do in a game. in a game
Autumn Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:39pm 
Originally posted by HerrBlitz:
Originally posted by Toast:
I mean yeah, that's how civil wars actually work. Military groups with absolutely no relation to the original government show up. Those are militias, international volunteers, mercenaries and private security, and so on. They shouldn't be veterans but they should absolutely be there.
You didnt read the post. this is a game. i am creating the revolution through focuses in a game. I am trying to get foreign support and aid in a game, when i do the revolution works. when i dont it fails. it takes like over an hour to get there, id like a gauge or some way to know what the pressure looks like or how to control it so i can set myself up in a game for what i want to do in a game. in a game

Yeah, and then international brigades are represented in the game. This is called challenge. That's an important part of games to make them fun.
HerrBlitz (Banned) Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:40pm 
Originally posted by Somethings Burnin:
Paradox is trying so hard not to offend any certain sect of their customer base they arent giving the history and alternate history any true flavor. Not sure Paradox knows what they want HOI4 or more specifically HOI5 to be. Is it a 1930's world simulation or WWII game?

Only real solution to your situation in the US. Console commands to get the game where you would like it then go back to playing. Eliminate the super units or all their troops and just take over and play. Hell its your game, do whatever you like. Because for a while, without mods, and the direction they are going the game is a poor simulation of WW2. Look no further than the lastest DLC announcement...
someone who gets it. I do play with a lot of mods, but i need a lot of mods for some countries. God forbid FDR start the gold standard because my realism in a game where Amelia Earhart survives and becomes my facist Ace pilot.....oh and when the war pops off i control 90% of the country and 20% of my guns navy and artillery.... right...so..... I guess ill stick to Germany Russia or UK if I want to enjoy the game without 2000 hours and an insane amount of micro. "skill issue" how do i get my friends involved when you need 1000 hours and 200 dollars to get good. what a joke
HerrBlitz (Banned) Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:44pm 
Originally posted by Toast:
Originally posted by HerrBlitz:
You didnt read the post. this is a game. i am creating the revolution through focuses in a game. I am trying to get foreign support and aid in a game, when i do the revolution works. when i dont it fails. it takes like over an hour to get there, id like a gauge or some way to know what the pressure looks like or how to control it so i can set myself up in a game for what i want to do in a game. in a game

Yeah, and then international brigades are represented in the game. This is called challenge. That's an important part of games to make them fun.
yeah you are bad. This game is only challenging if you try to go outside of the beaten path. They basically hand ideology and paths through focus trees for some country's and others like the US havent changed since vanilla. You dont seem to understand what my point is. This game is almost 10 years old and America is the same exact country and its focus tree sucks, it is boring, and no matter how many of you ass licking chuds i have to make fun off the truth remains the same. This game is a sandbox, or it was, if it was really a WW2 sim the allies win, Germany isnt Broken and Communist China wins everytime. There would be no point. The original idea was supposed to be akin to EU. chuds like you ruined it. AKTUALLY. no its a game shut up.
Autumn Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:52pm 
Originally posted by HerrBlitz:
Originally posted by Toast:

Yeah, and then international brigades are represented in the game. This is called challenge. That's an important part of games to make them fun.
yeah you are bad. This game is only challenging if you try to go outside of the beaten path. They basically hand ideology and paths through focus trees for some country's and others like the US havent changed since vanilla. You dont seem to understand what my point is. This game is almost 10 years old and America is the same exact country and its focus tree sucks, it is boring, and no matter how many of you ass licking chuds i have to make fun off the truth remains the same. This game is a sandbox, or it was, if it was really a WW2 sim the allies win, Germany isnt Broken and Communist China wins everytime. There would be no point. The original idea was supposed to be akin to EU. chuds like you ruined it. AKTUALLY. no its a game shut up.

Do you know actually know what the word "chud" means? Also, if the game is too easy why are you trying to make it easier and then complaining when there's something in place to make it harder?
Last edited by Autumn; Feb 10, 2024 @ 10:52pm
HerrBlitz (Banned) Feb 10, 2024 @ 11:04pm 
Originally posted by Toast:
Originally posted by HerrBlitz:
yeah you are bad. This game is only challenging if you try to go outside of the beaten path. They basically hand ideology and paths through focus trees for some country's and others like the US havent changed since vanilla. You dont seem to understand what my point is. This game is almost 10 years old and America is the same exact country and its focus tree sucks, it is boring, and no matter how many of you ass licking chuds i have to make fun off the truth remains the same. This game is a sandbox, or it was, if it was really a WW2 sim the allies win, Germany isnt Broken and Communist China wins everytime. There would be no point. The original idea was supposed to be akin to EU. chuds like you ruined it. AKTUALLY. no its a game shut up.

Do you know actually know what the word "chud" means? Also, if the game is too easy why are you trying to make it easier and then complaining when there's something in place to make it harder?
your reading comprehension is ♥♥♥♥. Easy or not isnt the issue, the game is broken and parts of it are the same they were 10 years ago. America's focus tree has never changed, It is a broken nation, and they actively destroy exploits which make a simple desired result easier but will do nothing to make that result more accessible in game. It isnt that the civil war in America is the only of its kind and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, its the fact that this is a sand box game and it takes me real life time to get to something i am designed to lose or if I do win, by that time it doesnt matter in single player. Cool im facist America in 1942. and now the game is over. Youre a chud, and i cant stand people like you. Greece literally has a facist tree that lets you revive the spartan spirit and restore the byzantine. the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about historical or realistic. Youre making argument on something you could ignore that is why you are a chud.
Autumn Feb 10, 2024 @ 11:19pm 
Originally posted by HerrBlitz:
Originally posted by Toast:

Do you know actually know what the word "chud" means? Also, if the game is too easy why are you trying to make it easier and then complaining when there's something in place to make it harder?
your reading comprehension is ♥♥♥♥. Easy or not isnt the issue, the game is broken and parts of it are the same they were 10 years ago. America's focus tree has never changed, It is a broken nation, and they actively destroy exploits which make a simple desired result easier but will do nothing to make that result more accessible in game. It isnt that the civil war in America is the only of its kind and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, its the fact that this is a sand box game and it takes me real life time to get to something i am designed to lose or if I do win, by that time it doesnt matter in single player. Cool im facist America in 1942. and now the game is over. Youre a chud, and i cant stand people like you. Greece literally has a facist tree that lets you revive the spartan spirit and restore the byzantine. the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about historical or realistic. Youre making argument on something you could ignore that is why you are a chud.

I never said the words "historical" or "realistic". That's still not what the word "chud" means. America got an update already. The war is perfectly winnable. Fascist America can get a free wargoal on every major country and start a third world war doing it if it absolutely needs to.

Maybe just get better at the game.
Last edited by Autumn; Feb 10, 2024 @ 11:19pm
velvetcrabman Feb 11, 2024 @ 12:52am 
Why fight it at all when you can do the job via election in Nov' '40?
Curfuffle Feb 11, 2024 @ 7:15am 
Originally posted by velvetcrabman:
Why fight it at all when you can do the job via election in Nov' '40?

That doesn't turn you fascist though does it? I thought that was just a conservative running a democracy instead of a democrat running a democracy?

Also the weird thing for me when i recently tried this for the first time i ended up fighting as the yankees against the confederates which was really confusing. So i ended up doing a quick reload and ended up on the confederate side as should be. It's also micro hell, just chaos. Not fun at all.
I did come out feeling like i got a lot better at the game though, only time i ever needed to micro and it was almost more micro than Starcraft, was a wild time. Never again. Needs fixing.
Last edited by Curfuffle; Feb 11, 2024 @ 7:22am
HerrBlitz (Banned) Feb 11, 2024 @ 5:26pm 
Originally posted by Toast:
Originally posted by HerrBlitz:
your reading comprehension is ♥♥♥♥. Easy or not isnt the issue, the game is broken and parts of it are the same they were 10 years ago. America's focus tree has never changed, It is a broken nation, and they actively destroy exploits which make a simple desired result easier but will do nothing to make that result more accessible in game. It isnt that the civil war in America is the only of its kind and ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, its the fact that this is a sand box game and it takes me real life time to get to something i am designed to lose or if I do win, by that time it doesnt matter in single player. Cool im facist America in 1942. and now the game is over. Youre a chud, and i cant stand people like you. Greece literally has a facist tree that lets you revive the spartan spirit and restore the byzantine. the ♥♥♥♥ are you on about historical or realistic. Youre making argument on something you could ignore that is why you are a chud.

I never said the words "historical" or "realistic". That's still not what the word "chud" means. America got an update already. The war is perfectly winnable. Fascist America can get a free wargoal on every major country and start a third world war doing it if it absolutely needs to.

Maybe just get better at the game.
shut up chud
velvetcrabman Feb 12, 2024 @ 1:45am 
Originally posted by Curfuffle:
Originally posted by velvetcrabman:
Why fight it at all when you can do the job via election in Nov' '40?

That doesn't turn you fascist though does it? I thought that was just a conservative running a democracy instead of a democrat running a democracy?

It does indeed turn you fascist and then you can finish the fascist path, just don't do the parts of the tree that move you closer to civil war before the election and they're bypassed after it. Plenty to keep you busy in the meanwhile, like the rest of the Americas, much of Asia and the British Empire if they don't give you stuff voluntarily .
Somethings Burnin Feb 12, 2024 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by velvetcrabman:
Why fight it at all when you can do the job via election in Nov' '40?

For what he is trying to accomplish this would be far to late with the restrictions placed on the US through both Democracy nerfing and the Great Depression. By 1940 Germany is a V-12 roaring and ready to get into Russia and Japan in most games is eating China, only limited by its horrible infrastructure and supply.

The fact Paradox puts such an emphasis on limiting Democracies is flat out a historical. I am American, love my country for better and worse, but we have been at war like the entirety of our history. Whether through Manifest Destiny, the Monroe Doctine, our Non-Imperialist Imperialist policies in Cuba and Phillipines amongst others *cough Hawaii* I mean I could go on... But the US cant lend lease until this or that. It cant send troops, it cant declare WAR, wtf you kidding? Like um uhhh yeah all Democracies are all peaceful yo? aM i RiGht oR wHat
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velvetcrabman Feb 12, 2024 @ 8:38am 
You're kind of missing, as mentioned above, that Japan can be eaten by 1940, that you can join Allies and war with Germany in '39 , the focus tree choices that give you war goals on half the world or free territories..it's quite possible to get your 30%+ fascism, grab the manifest destiny branch and then just stay a democracy, so actually you're anything but right.
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