Spanish Civil War seems broken when you send volunteers

[MossRock42]

This seems bugged. Reinforcements and equipment not getting transferred to the troops. Wildly long battles. For instance, I took 6 Mountain Troops. A full stack vs 1 Spanish defender saying it would take over a hundred days. This was with air and ground support. Then the anarchist break off and that pretty much means that the Nationalist always win. This is with all the DLC enabled except for AAT.

[heracles87]

Idk in my experience unhistoric numbers of Soviet volunteers allows the AI to steamroll the Nationalists without player intervention.

[MossRock42]

Originally posted by heracles87:

Idk in my experience unhistoric numbers of Soviet volunteers allows the AI to steamroll the Nationalists without player intervention.

In Vanilla, I can easily steamroll the AI nationalist as the Soviets. It looks like the La Resistance DCL added this anarchists uprising and always takes a big chunk from Republican Spain. There's also some bugs mixed into it making fighting the nationalist take longer for your guys.

[Citizen X]

In order to prevent players from exploiting the civil war and ending it early, Paradox chose to add "traits" to the terrain in Spain; If you hover over the state and check the bottom left for an icon called "Unplanned Offensive" - This is a -90% nerf to attack and breakthrough. This trait is why your battles are taking so long, but they will go away as time passes, as if parts of Spain are being unlocked slowly to fight in.

All this is just to prevent players from sending massive divisions will crazy stats and ending the civil war in a month.

During the early months of the civil war, you can just stick your volunteers on the mountain province at the eastern tip of Granada, on the front line. The enemy will attack you from 3 directions, and so you can still grind your general traits and divisions xp

[MossRock42]

Originally posted by Citizen X:

In order to prevent players from exploiting the civil war and ending it early, Paradox chose to add "traits" to the terrain in Spain; If you hover over the state and check the bottom left for an icon called "Unplanned Offensive" - This is a -90% nerf to attack and breakthrough. This trait goes away as time passes, as if parts of Spain are being unlocked slowly to fight in.

All this is just to prevent players from sending massive divisions will crazy stats and ending the civil war in a month.

That doesn't make sense. Germany is limited to 3-4 divs and Soviets can bring six. The best Soviets have is either Light Tanks or Mountain. You also get 2 wings of air volunteers. This nerf seems like overkill.

[Citizen X]

Originally posted by MossRock42:

That doesn't make sense. Germany is limited to 3-4 divs and Soviets can bring six. The best Soviets have is either Light Tanks or Mountain. You also get 2 wings of air volunteers. This nerf seems like overkill.

Im just the messenger. You can send any divisions tho, which means you can send 45w+ Tank divisions as Germany that would run through Republican defenses and drive into all the VCs.

Theres a chance im mistaken. Maybe the trait is there for another reason. But the "Unplanned Offensive" trait exists, and it will make it very hard for you to effectively conduct offensives in Spain. The trait is removed 1 province at a time as time goes on

[MossRock42]

Originally posted by Citizen X:

Originally posted by MossRock42:

That doesn't make sense. Germany is limited to 3-4 divs and Soviets can bring six. The best Soviets have is either Light Tanks or Mountain. You also get 2 wings of air volunteers. This nerf seems like overkill.

Im just the messenger. You can send any divisions tho, which means you can send 45w+ Tank divisions as Germany that would run through Republican defenses and drive into all the VCs.

Would you have time to build up enough points to make a 45w+ VCs given that the SCW stars so early in the game?

[Citizen X]

Originally posted by MossRock42:

Originally posted by Citizen X:

Im just the messenger. You can send any divisions tho, which means you can send 45w+ Tank divisions as Germany that would run through Republican defenses and drive into all the VCs.

Would you have time to build up enough points to make a 45w+ VCs given that the SCW stars so early in the game?

Youre trying to compromise and argue with me as if i have the power to remove this design decision from the game. Italy has a 35 day bonus available from day 1 that awards 25 Army XP, and they are also fighting in Ethiopia. I get around 50-60 before Civil war.

Just use Spain to grind your generals like everyone else. There arent many other opportunities before the main fight starts anyways

[Evilcheesewheel]

Originally posted by MossRock42:

Originally posted by Citizen X:

In order to prevent players from exploiting the civil war and ending it early, Paradox chose to add "traits" to the terrain in Spain; If you hover over the state and check the bottom left for an icon called "Unplanned Offensive" - This is a -90% nerf to attack and breakthrough. This trait goes away as time passes, as if parts of Spain are being unlocked slowly to fight in.

All this is just to prevent players from sending massive divisions will crazy stats and ending the civil war in a month.

That doesn't make sense. Germany is limited to 3-4 divs and Soviets can bring six. The best Soviets have is either Light Tanks or Mountain. You also get 2 wings of air volunteers. This nerf seems like overkill.

Yes and they would be fighting 6 width infantry divisions.

[MossRock42]

I think that this nerf would cause a lot of players to just pass on sending volunteers because it's just an exercise in frustration. Just improve the relations, send an attache and collect free points rather than trying to deal with planned/unplanned offenses.

[CaptainSpacetime]

Originally posted by MossRock42:

I think that this nerf would cause a lot of players to just pass on sending volunteers because it's just an exercise in frustration. Just improve the relations, send an attache and collect free points rather than trying to deal with planned/unplanned offenses.

No not really, you can just push through or ignore the unplanned areas.

[MossRock42]

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

Originally posted by MossRock42:

I think that this nerf would cause a lot of players to just pass on sending volunteers because it's just an exercise in frustration. Just improve the relations, send an attache and collect free points rather than trying to deal with planned/unplanned offenses.

No not really, you can just push through or ignore the unplanned areas.

If you think this then you probably haven't tried it recently.

[CaptainSpacetime]

Originally posted by MossRock42:

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

No not really, you can just push through or ignore the unplanned areas.

If you think this then you probably haven't tried it recently.

it's been this way for years

[MossRock42]

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

it's been this way for years

It's new to me because I just recently got the DLC. I'm sure there's probably some veterans that could knock it out of the park.

[MossRock42]

I've been experimenting trying several different ways to win the SCW by playing the Soviets. Nothing works.

[MossRock42]

There is a good side to the Republicans losing the Spanish Civil War if you play as the Soviets. You can still level up units but you also get their exiled generals to help replace the ones lost during the purges.