Ships are not repairing

[Bored Peon]

This is more of a public service announcement. I ran into this issue as Finland the other day and then again as Sweden today, When I did an internet search it did not turn up anything useful, so here is something useful.

The signs:
Basically your ships stop repairing and if you are exercising them they sink.
It can also bug out where if you click "Repair Now" it will toggle "Never Repair on."

The Cause:
The problem is "Demilitarized ports" which are port sin demilitarized zones. ships are not allowed there to repair. However the AI still sees them are a valid destination to choose from, but will not move there.

The Fix:
The fix is to zoom in on the port or ports in in the demilitarized area and then Control Click on the port which should place a red marker on the port indicating to never use it.
(This can also be handy to avoid fleets using level 1 ports forever to repair big fleets)

[johnknott]

I've also come across this problem with Finland post-BBA and not found out anything on the Internet (other than people confirming they've encountered it too, some with other Scandie countries).

I'm a bit puzzled by your solution though.

What I found is that with ships in training, the instant they're damaged they flip to "never repair". Even caught one in the act.

Only solution I could find was the cancel the training order and flip it back to some kind of repair option.

Very frustrating as essentially you have to watch the ships in training all the time like you've got nothing better to do.

But I'll try your solution next time I'm Finland.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by johnknott:

I've also come across this problem with Finland post-BBA and not found out anything on the Internet (other than people confirming they've encountered it too, some with other Scandie countries).

I'm a bit puzzled by your solution though.

What I found is that with ships in training, the instant they're damaged they flip to "never repair". Even caught one in the act.

Only solution I could find was the cancel the training order and flip it back to some kind of repair option.

Very frustrating as essentially you have to watch the ships in training all the time like you've got nothing better to do.

But I'll try your solution next time I'm Finland.

Yeah it is the demilitarized port, even just having one of them causes an issue for some reason.

The port issue causes fleet to swap to never repair when they cannot use one of these ports.

Apparently there is something in the code where fleet do not just use the nearest port, but there is like a check to see if all ports are valid first? Then when it fails it creates the issue.

I was playing as FInland when I first caught it. Then yesterday I had it happen twice with Sweden. The first was after taking the focus for taking 3 territories form Norway and making them demilitarized. You end up with 3 ports form that, I turn off the never use and the problem went away. Later on I decided to build two ports in that area for any future fighting (since cannot build supply hubs in demilitarized zones) and the problem came back again. Turning off the ports solved the issue again.

[CaptainSpacetime]

Oh wow great catch. I had this problem at Finland and Sweden (did take that Norway focus) and just stopped bothering to exercise my ships..

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by CaptainSpacetime:

Oh wow great catch. I had this problem at Finland and Sweden (did take that Norway focus) and just stopped bothering to exercise my ships..

As I siad in the first post I was kinda surprised there was no topics on Steam, Paradox, or Reddit on this. So I figured I would at least create something so that when someone types in "Ships do not repair" or "never repair" then this topic would come up.

Yeah first time I caught it was after losing all my early submarines as Finland and the second time I lost a 1944 destroyer. You only get a warning when the capital ships get low, lol.

Seeming how they have never fixed the portraits going missing any time you change theatres not sure if this would see a fix.

[Gorgeous_Joe]

Oh boy, you guys are in for more fun and games later. I've just put a post up about it but in brief, all your ships will queue at a single shipyard for repairs regardless of how many repair yards and priorities you have. Not an issue when you are playing as Finland but try the US when you have a hundred warships needing repairs and they all sit at the same repair yard unless you manually move them to different ones.
Ah......this game

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Gorgeous_Joe:

Oh boy, you guys are in for more fun and games later. I've just put a post up about it but in brief, all your ships will queue at a single shipyard for repairs regardless of how many repair yards and priorities you have. Not an issue when you are playing as Finland but try the US when you have a hundred warships needing repairs and they all sit at the same repair yard unless you manually move them to different ones.
Ah......this game

Easy solution to that....multiple in fact
- Disable and level 3 or lower naval bases (AI chooses closest naval base)
- Increase the size of the naval base
- Increase the amount of dockyards able to switch to repair
- Deny ANYONE from using your docks (It wastes your repair)
- Do NOT use foreign docks (Uses the AI repair settings)
- Choose the repair/refit option in the second tier naval command section
- Use the focus Increase Naval Production.

[Gorgeous_Joe]

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Originally posted by Gorgeous_Joe:

Oh boy, you guys are in for more fun and games later. I've just put a post up about it but in brief, all your ships will queue at a single shipyard for repairs regardless of how many repair yards and priorities you have. Not an issue when you are playing as Finland but try the US when you have a hundred warships needing repairs and they all sit at the same repair yard unless you manually move them to different ones.
Ah......this game

Easy solution to that....multiple in fact
- Disable and level 3 or lower naval bases (AI chooses closest naval base)
- Increase the size of the naval base
- Increase the amount of dockyards able to switch to repair
- Deny ANYONE from using your docks (It wastes your repair)
- Do NOT use foreign docks (Uses the AI repair settings)
- Choose the repair/refit option in the second tier naval command section
- Use the focus Increase Naval Production.

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Ah, if only it was that simple. The issue is that ALL the ships requiring repairs queue at a single dockyard and do not move unless you manually move them.
I've disabled all the little dockyards
I have all 100 dockyards set to repair
No one else is queuing
Switched them off too as ships were literally sat there doing nothing
That allows them to split from the fleet for repairs which they do.
Not really sure which focus you mean but it aint gonna fix the problem.

In this scenario, I have two level 10 dockyards in Pearl and the ships only use one of them, even though the other one is right next to it and of course the west coast is a day or two away with another 40 or so dockyards free. So if I didn't manually move them the 80 ships would spend years waiting for repairs at a single dockyard instead of moving to the next free dockyard.
I don't remember this being a problem in the past but it's been a while since I played the US. I think this might be a bug with the US as I played the UK and don't recall any repair issues with their fleets but I may not have been paying much attention.

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Gorgeous_Joe:

Originally posted by Bored Peon:

Easy solution to that....multiple in fact
- Disable and level 3 or lower naval bases (AI chooses closest naval base)
- Increase the size of the naval base
- Increase the amount of dockyards able to switch to repair
- Deny ANYONE from using your docks (It wastes your repair)
- Do NOT use foreign docks (Uses the AI repair settings)
- Choose the repair/refit option in the second tier naval command section
- Use the focus Increase Naval Production.

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Ah, if only it was that simple. The issue is that ALL the ships requiring repairs queue at a single dockyard and do not move unless you manually move them.
I've disabled all the little dockyards
I have all 100 dockyards set to repair
No one else is queuing
Switched them off too as ships were literally sat there doing nothing
That allows them to split from the fleet for repairs which they do.
Not really sure which focus you mean but it aint gonna fix the problem.

In this scenario, I have two level 10 dockyards in Pearl and the ships only use one of them, even though the other one is right next to it and of course the west coast is a day or two away with another 40 or so dockyards free. So if I didn't manually move them the 80 ships would spend years waiting for repairs at a single dockyard instead of moving to the next free dockyard.
I don't remember this being a problem in the past but it's been a while since I played the US. I think this might be a bug with the US as I played the UK and don't recall any repair issues with their fleets but I may not have been paying much attention.

Ships will dock at the closest port to repair.

I have never seen ships dock to repair then never queue to repair.

[Pelos]

Thank you, this totally worked playing as Finland

[Bored Peon]

Originally posted by Somnia:

Thank you, this totally worked playing as Finland

Yeah any time you gain a demilitarized port it bugs the auto-repair system on fleets. The same happens if you play as Sweden and gain Aland or the northern ports.

[RandoomNPC]

Funny thing... 2025 and this issue still exists. Thank you for the fix!

[Happyscientist]

Originally posted by RandoomNPC:

Funny thing... 2025 and this issue still exists. Thank you for the fix!

My dude, paradox still cant get the damned launcher to work right. Are you actually surprised?