Stresa Front - Italy

[Citizen X]

Playing Italy, and went Ratify Stresa Front in order to get compensation from allies (UK gives me Malta which is stupid good). My plan was fullfill my obligation and defend Austria, but THEN LEAVE the Allies and join Germany at a later date for WW2.

My problem is Germany is so-far willing to lose 200k men and East Prussia over Austria, and Hitler hasnt been assassinated, nor has a conditional surrender been offered. Why? Why is Hitler surviving a botched war over Austria?

[Aluvard]

As far as i know you got the countries wrong. Hitler assassination event (Oster conspiracy) launch if Germany is unable to take Czechoslovakia under 150 days.

[Citizen X]

Originally posted by Aluvard:

As far as i know you got the countries wrong. Hitler assassination event (Oster conspiracy) launch if Germany is unable to take Czechoslovakia under 150 days.

Thank you for the response. This isnt what im actually asking about, though. Im asking the question of why Hitler has NOT* been replaced over War with Austria. I understand that HOI4 is full of scripted events, and I understand the events that can occur during Sudetenland, but Im currently confused why a similar event doesnt occur over Austria.

I dont want too, and dont feel like I should have too, defeat Nazi Germany completely over Austria.

[Aluvard]

Originally posted by kyleperry19:

Originally posted by Aluvard:

As far as i know you got the countries wrong. Hitler assassination event (Oster conspiracy) launch if Germany is unable to take Czechoslovakia under 150 days.

Thank you for the response. This isnt what im actually asking about, though. Im asking the question of why Hitler has NOT* been replaced over War with Austria. I understand that HOI4 is full of scripted events, and I understand the events that can occur during Sudetenland, but Im currently confused why a similar event doesnt occur over Austria.

I dont want too, and dont feel like I should have too, defeat Nazi Germany completely over Austria.

Probably because Anschluss was strongly supported by both sides (historically both countries tried to form union right after the end of WWI). So it could be seen as fighting for the so called "Greater Germany". Austria at that time, wasn't very willing to be an independent country.
Attack on Czechslovakia was more towards obvious war, while Anschluss was nearly willing union.

[Citizen X]

Originally posted by Aluvard:

Probably because Anschluss was strongly supported by both sides (historically both countries tried to form union right after the end of WWI). So it could be seen as fighting for the so called "Greater Germany". Austria at that time, wasn't very willing to be an independent country.
Attack on Czechslovakia was more towards obvious war, while Anschluss was nearly willing union.

Ill have to see about that. I think thats probably not the case, and i doubt the developers had that in mind when scripting this. Unification with Austria is explicitly forbidden in the ToV. Germany was weaker during Anchluss than Sudetenland, and Hitler is currently facing more enemies than every with the addition of Italy and Austria to the Allies.

The failure to unify with Austria should see the overthrow of Hitler which can just simply be replaced with a fascist provisional government, or allow Germany through events to choose a new leader. I dont see any historical evidence that Germany or even Hitlers Staff would allow WW2 to breakout over Austria. Thanks for the reply; i guess not alot of people have gone down the Stresa Path

[Aluvard]

I think the problem here is the fact, that despite guaranteeing austrian independence, target country is willing to be annexed.
Also historically Italy guaranteed Austria in 1933, because Mussolini at first wanted buffor country between him and 3 Reich. It wouldn't surprise me, if that's why they didn't coded something like Oster conspiracy for Austria.

[Citizen X]

Originally posted by Aluvard:

I think the problem here is the fact, that despite guaranteeing austrian independence, target country is willing to be annexed.
Also historically Italy guaranteed Austria in 1933, because Mussolini at first wanted buffor country between him and 3 Reich. It wouldn't surprise me, if that's why they didn't coded something like Oster conspiracy for Austria.

Willingness of Austria to be annexed has nothing to do with the Allies declaring war on Germany FOR annexing Austria. Germany is willing to lose it all over Anchluss and I dont think thats right. Ill play-test this week I guess and see how things work out