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Segert Mar 21, 2023 @ 8:08pm
Cant delete, Return or Convert troops! What do i do?
As the ottomans. I requested forces from bulgaria. I had their whole army. Meanwhile i lend lease them everything i had. To annex them. It worked. But.... the Bulgarian troops remained...

I cant disband them, I cant Delete them, I cant convert them to my standard templates. I cant do anything with them. Well i can use them as normal units. But thats it.

So im stuck with the bulgarian expeditionary forces. And cant return them or change their template.. They are the standard troops you get when they spawn....

This is kind of frustrating that is 100000 forces being tied up in useless divisions.
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EthanT Mar 21, 2023 @ 9:47pm 
Next time return them before the annex. From here your best bet is to just toss them on a garrison order and forget they exist.
AmesNFire Mar 21, 2023 @ 10:44pm 
Originally posted by Road to Crusader:
Next time return them before the annex. From here your best bet is to just toss them on a garrison order and forget they exist.

Theoretically they could, during a war, arrange for the bulgarian troops to be surrounded and overrun with no supplies.
Segert Mar 22, 2023 @ 4:53am 
Originally posted by Road to Crusader:
Next time return them before the annex. From here your best bet is to just toss them on a garrison order and forget they exist.

Seems a bit of an oversight from paradox. To have this not covered somewhere in the code. Its weird.
Crazed Possum Mar 22, 2023 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by Segert:
As the ottomans. I requested forces from bulgaria. I had their whole army. Meanwhile i lend lease them everything i had. To annex them. It worked. But.... the Bulgarian troops remained...

I cant disband them, I cant Delete them, I cant convert them to my standard templates. I cant do anything with them. Well i can use them as normal units. But thats it.

So im stuck with the bulgarian expeditionary forces. And cant return them or change their template.. They are the standard troops you get when they spawn....

This is kind of frustrating that is 100000 forces being tied up in useless divisions.

This may sound stupid and right now I'm at work but can you rename them as in their template and then tried deleting them?
Segert Mar 22, 2023 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by Crazed Possum:
Originally posted by Segert:
As the ottomans. I requested forces from bulgaria. I had their whole army. Meanwhile i lend lease them everything i had. To annex them. It worked. But.... the Bulgarian troops remained...

I cant disband them, I cant Delete them, I cant convert them to my standard templates. I cant do anything with them. Well i can use them as normal units. But thats it.

So im stuck with the bulgarian expeditionary forces. And cant return them or change their template.. They are the standard troops you get when they spawn....

This is kind of frustrating that is 100000 forces being tied up in useless divisions.

This may sound stupid and right now I'm at work but can you rename them as in their template and then tried deleting them?

nope cant edit anything on them. No name change ect.. Just not allowed like they are stille expeditionary. I know what happened. They are expeditionary and their original country just doesnt exist anymore. Because i annexed it. So they in limbo right now. still can use them as normal units. But they also dont get equipment reinforcment ect. So they will just die out in combat.
AmesNFire Mar 22, 2023 @ 2:54pm 
Originally posted by Segert:
Originally posted by Crazed Possum:

This may sound stupid and right now I'm at work but can you rename them as in their template and then tried deleting them?

nope cant edit anything on them. No name change ect.. Just not allowed like they are stille expeditionary. I know what happened. They are expeditionary and their original country just doesnt exist anymore. Because i annexed it. So they in limbo right now. still can use them as normal units. But they also dont get equipment reinforcment ect. So they will just die out in combat.

If you're willing to use the console a bit you could release the country, tag over to them to request the expedition back, tag back to your original country and wait a few days, then check if the armies are gone and if yes then annex the country back again.
Izlude-Tingel Mar 28, 2023 @ 1:26pm 
I've run into this problem as well, appears to take a long time to convert troops and I don't know why. Not sure if there's a timer or it requires full equiipment and organization to do the flip. Its very odd.
JDouglasBarson Mar 28, 2023 @ 2:10pm 
I wouldn't have bother to annex Bulgaria, You get more military factories from integrated puppet Bulgaria then even as a core. i believe its was an extra 10 or 20 percent more factories. Also, Bulgaria has nice combat bonus to divisions. Not to mention all the extra resources available to you. Unless it was change in the last two updates, then Eastern Europe should be kept as puppets. You could get enough cores just taking the lands from Africa and Middle East which are usually held by low supply enemy divisions. Meanwhile as Ottoman, you will have supply problems with Eastern Europe.
Segert Mar 28, 2023 @ 4:48pm 
Originally posted by JDouglasBarson:
I wouldn't have bother to annex Bulgaria, You get more military factories from integrated puppet Bulgaria then even as a core. i believe its was an extra 10 or 20 percent more factories. Also, Bulgaria has nice combat bonus to divisions. Not to mention all the extra resources available to you. Unless it was change in the last two updates, then Eastern Europe should be kept as puppets. You could get enough cores just taking the lands from Africa and Middle East which are usually held by low supply enemy divisions. Meanwhile as Ottoman, you will have supply problems with Eastern Europe.


You can core the balkans as the ottomans. Getting you access to all the resources and the factories. Also. Supply isnt an issue. Since i invest in a healthy railway line with supply depots and ports.

I also think the balkans have some good strategic lines with mountains and stuff. Where i can stop germany and the soviets from attacking. Just some landforts on mountains and boom. They are not getting in.
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Date Posted: Mar 21, 2023 @ 8:08pm
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