defeating Turkey as Greece

[Hoaxe72]

ever since By Blood Alone released it has been impossible to defeat turkey as they always always ALWAYS put a divsion or two (sometimes three to four) on Alexandropilis (idk how to spell it) and I just can't do it. any help would be much appreaciated, along with focus tree advice

[Ozyaba]

Because Turkey #1

[JDouglasBarson]

Fall back and naval invade from behind. And yeah, its risky. I usually leave ports unguarded except for Athens. I overrun 5-10 divisions from invasions and then fall back to port to allow Turkey to move into Greece then naval invade around the border of Greece and Turkey. You need to win the naval battles first before doing naval invasions. It's going to be hard if you don't use spy to boost intel. If wait long enough to declare war, you can build radar which provides a little helps. if everything works alright, then you should have wipe out 20 divisions before moving into Turkey. Turkey will not be able to guard other ports and have enough equip divisions at the border, so naval invade and push at the border to win. Also, if you are at war with Romania then you should put your subs to convoy raid to keep Romania from sending divisions to Turkey.

This is more like an outline to a guide, so I might have left out details.

[JDouglasBarson]

One other bit. You need at least 2-4 cav or motorized divisions to rush in to Turkey to capture victory points. Turkey tends to get invited into factions. I don't know why they don't fix this. Turkey shouldn't be invited into factions when losing a war.

[Hoaxe72]

Originally posted by JDouglasBarson:

Fall back and naval invade from behind. And yeah, its risky. I usually leave ports unguarded except for Athens. I overrun 5-10 divisions from invasions and then fall back to port to allow Turkey to move into Greece then naval invade around the border of Greece and Turkey. You need to win the naval battles first before doing naval invasions. It's going to be hard if you don't use spy to boost intel. If wait long enough to declare war, you can build radar which provides a little helps. if everything works alright, then you should have wipe out 20 divisions before moving into Turkey. Turkey will not be able to guard other ports and have enough equip divisions at the border, so naval invade and push at the border to win. Also, if you are at war with Romania then you should put your subs to convoy raid to keep Romania from sending divisions to Turkey.

This is more like an outline to a guide, so I might have left out details.

that would work. however,. turkey is a ♥♥♥♥♥ and places multiple divisions on every single port so a naval invasion just wont land and turkey navy got a buff it seems as now I cant get over 37% naval supremacy

[JDouglasBarson]

You don't invade the port until you taken out Turkey divisions. You allow Turkey to naval invaded divisions into Greece where you have more supply and can cut Turkey supply. Allow Turkey to navy invade western Greece and guard the supply and border. The western side of Greece is not for good for supply but easy to defend. You should use subs to convoy raid to take out supply if Turkey manages to capture a port. At all cost, don't get Greece's capital cut from supply or taken because your supply is move to ports instead of land. After you taken out the Turkey invasions then fall back to the nearest port and naval invade anywhere on the border but not on enemy port. You going to be cutting the supply from Turkey and destroying the Turkey invasion divisions. You need to win the naval battles in order to be able to freely naval invade. I naval invade anywhere on the Greece side where Turkey is occupying and cut the supply then defend until Turkey divisions are taken out. I usually naval invade a Turkish port around the southern coast of Turkey after taking out 20 or so divisions. Turkey will not have enough fully equip divisions to hold there for long without weakening the forces on the border. If you time it right, then you capture a port in the south and take Turkey's capital at the same time.

You could do the focus open up the country to get the option to rebuild a capital ship which should help with naval battles. I never needed to do that. Alternatively, you can invade Bulgaria before going to war with Turkey and puppet all but the one Provence near your border. That will give you another area to draw supply and more room to trap Turkey divisions. Of course don't call in Bulgaria to the war if Romania is going to be in the war.

As far as the navy battle, I usually switch the navy to always engage. Greece has a superior navy to Turkey. You should switch the AI to never repair ships. You going to need to monitor navy battles very closely.

The whole early war with Turkey is very risky, so you need to micromanage every detail.