Greece economic focus. Left or Right?

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Greece is a bit confusing with the debt and focuses. Im not sure if it's just better to pay off the debts or to just abandon them. You can partially abandon them with a few countries like italy or france with focuses but then you still need to pay off the british, so either you go all in paying or all in abandoning.

The economic focus tree has 2 mutual exclusive lines and 2 pairs of mutual exclusive ones in the middle that you can pick regardless of which line you went down, followed by triple mutual exclusive choice.

The left side seems to give you more benefits earlier in the line with 4 mil and 4 civ factories and more small bonuses like research speed, free trade and maybe more PP. While the right gives you more benefits later in the line with 10-12 civ factories and limited exports, but at the start you get maybe a little more manpower and factory output, the rest is quicker ways to pay off debt.

Both these lines end with giving different designer options, and the right side ones seem better but im not sure.


For the centre options, it's a choice between 4 civs factories + small opinion boost with some great powers, or 3 mil factories + 2x 100% research bonus to excavation.
The other pair seems like a no brainer, as the tourism option isn't that significant and disappears forever if war is declared.

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[Včelí medvídek]

It is your choice that is the whole point of it. No one know your game style, objectives, path, faction you are going to join (if any) and so on. Expecting one way is no brainer over other would mean some major unbalance which is not the case.

In general if you want aggresive early expansion you usually want mils asap. For long term target as many slots/civs can be better. The same goes for bonsues like tourism - it can be big if you will utilize for couple of years but probably useless if you are going to early war. (though i think myself I would choose it even for ~year. Stability > War support for me and change oof mobilzation si both jsut extra PP and also I would do it probably much earlier before reach this in the tree)

Also to consider:
- the debt overall is possibly not so big deal as it looks, it can be also affected by focuses from other part of tree
- in long term thinking you can consider prioritize any source of manpower as it is probably most limiting factor for small countries like Greece.

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I should have asked what is the purpose/benefit of each choice. I see most people taking the left path. Neither of them seem to have any obvious purpose to me as they both have some long term gains and a bunch of short term gains.

It's weird that the right side helps you pay off the debt while the left doesn't which seems like it's pushing you towards just reneging on the debt but it also gives you more relations with the powers that you are indebted to and using designers from those countries that you lose if you are at war with them.

[Fargel_Linellar]

The biggest benefits of the right side are not in the focuses themselves, but in the designer unlocked at the end.

For example:
Industrial designer that provide -7% consumer goods
Infantry equipment designer that provide +5% attack for infantry

The political advisor for -5% consumer is also not too bad, but Greece has so many good one that it's less relevant.

Also both side can take the same in the middle brand (outside of their focus that lead to it).
So you can also boost tourism with the right branch.

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Originally posted by Fargel_Linellar:

The biggest benefits of the right side are not in the focuses themselves, but in the designer unlocked at the end.

For example:
Industrial designer that provide -7% consumer goods
Infantry equipment designer that provide +5% attack for infantry

The political advisor for -5% consumer is also not too bad, but Greece has so many good one that it's less relevant.

Also both side can take the same in the middle brand (outside of their focus that lead to it).
So you can also boost tourism with the right branch.

The right side's designers seem to me to be objectively better than the left side and have no risk of being lost due to their home country being at war/annexed. But I feel like that's the best part of the right side, as the left side is overall more useful.