Hearts of Iron IV

Hearts of Iron IV

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Xevicho Jun 29, 2023 @ 4:59am
How is it possible that Paradox creates content so slowly for this game?
They only release one major DLC a year it seems and I don't understand why. How come a modding team, like the one for R56, is able to pump out such High quality content for FREE in so much shorter of a time than Paradox can? Are these mod teams 10x larger than the actual Hoi4 dev team? Or is Paradox just completely and utterly incompetent at content creation. I mean if they don't know what to add to the game just ask the community, or steal from modders like they already have.

Vanilla Hoi4 is REALLY boring and overall just bad. Without the modding community the game would have barely any players, since they would have to wait 10+ months for new content which just ends up being trash. I mean ask yourself if you've ever been like "Man I really want to play Hoi4 WITHOUT Mods today". It's literally never happened, even if you want to go get achievements you'll have a map mod going so the game doesn't look like utter donkey ass.

How is a $30 billion game company SO BAD at making content for their games. Why do we get a Switzerland focus Tree before Finland, or even a Germany rework? Hell most of the majors need a rework compared to mods. At least we are finally getting a Scandinavia expansion, but even after 9 months of development we don't even have a release date yet, and this DLC isn't even adding anything major like No Step Back or By Blood Alone. Just an Arms market and Industrial Research rework, which seems like they still don't have a clue on how they are gonna do that.

Somebody explain to me why Paradox is so bad at making content for their games, please.
Last edited by Xevicho; Jun 29, 2023 @ 5:55am
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Cartoffel Jun 29, 2023 @ 5:13am 
Diversity hires and infighting, PDX has a lot of drama going on for a couple of years now.
Ogami Jun 29, 2023 @ 5:43am 
Kind of agree, i think the last time i played vanilla HOI4 was like 3-4 years ago?
"Road to 56" has pretty much replaced the standard HOI4 World War 2 scenario for me and apart from that i only play other mods like "Old World Blues" and "Kaissereich".
There is just nothing there in the base game, with or without DLC that interests me that much compared to the modding scene.
Last edited by Ogami; Jun 29, 2023 @ 5:43am
Xevicho Jun 29, 2023 @ 6:04am 
@Cartoffel seems about right
mk11 Jun 29, 2023 @ 6:05am 
A mod has to be good for players that like that mod. A DLC has to be good enough for most players, including those with little experience. This means Paradox are constrained from trying risky new things. It also means that almost all players will find some mods that they prefer to vanilla but people will differ in their preferences.

A mod team can release a version, decide it was a big mistake, and revert or replace. Paradox shouldn't do that (not saying they haven't occasionally on some of their games).
SalzStange Jun 29, 2023 @ 10:24am 
Even if Hoi 4 had a long time the highest active users and the best reviews, it seems paradox just hates hoi 4.

The game has still not all the unique focus trees... after 7 years... There are multiple bugs which are years old and they are confirmed ones..

I have the fear, that the new main dev is not able to finish the game faster.
Even if he has announced it. It seems it slows down and the quality of the content is even decreasing.

Maybe he has his team not under control or it's just not enough workers
coffeemm8 Jun 29, 2023 @ 10:54am 
love how this community overrates mods to hell and back.
Xevicho Jun 29, 2023 @ 10:55am 
@coffeemm8 how are mods overrated?
coffeemm8 Jun 29, 2023 @ 10:57am 
Originally posted by Xevicho:
@coffeemm8 how are mods overrated?
Because only a handful are actually good. And aside from that they can only do what Paradox gives them to work with
Xevicho Jun 29, 2023 @ 11:02am 
@coffeemm8 I kinda disagree with you, sure there are only a hand full of great full conversion mods for hoi4 (which are all huge and offer 5x the playtime/quality than Vanilla), but there are also a TON of small mods that are great.
Witch ~ Jun 29, 2023 @ 12:24pm 
I would prefer they were even slower because a lot of the major overhauls they've done have been annoying :/
PillBox20 Jun 29, 2023 @ 6:59pm 
Originally posted by coffeemm8:
Originally posted by Xevicho:
@coffeemm8 how are mods overrated?
Because only a handful are actually good. And aside from that they can only do what Paradox gives them to work with

This guy makes a good point. I am a modder and I am limited by what systems the game/DLCs actually have. Usually with each new DLC, PDX adds something else for the modders to use.
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Date Posted: Jun 29, 2023 @ 4:59am
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