best CPU?

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Currently running an I7 8700. When buying a cpu:
should I go for single core performance?
AMD or Intel?
I noticed Intel is doing some funky hyperthreading now (P/E cores?), will that negatively impact performance?

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[Supreme Leader Kim Jong Don]

Ryzen x3d chips work best for games like HOI4, so take a look at Ryzen 5800x3d or if you got money to spare then take a look at the new gen Ryzen 7800x3d/7900x3d/7950x3d.

If you go for the latest gen x3d chips then wait till 6th April that's when the 7800x3d will launch, if not then the 5800x3d is no slouch either!

[Supreme Leader Kim Jong Don]

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[Furball]

I am sure there are peole who will read this post and think i am just some tech noob and know nothing about CPU's. Honestly, if someone is asking a question like this on steam forums they are not going to notice the very minor technical differences and are just looking for advice on spending wisely on a CPU for playing games like this. So this is answered from that perspective.


Short version.
Buy the best CPU you can afford and it will last you a long time. I have a 10 year old PC i built specifically for gaming, I have upgrading parts of it but it is still the original CPU and i haven't found a game i am interested in that i can't still play with it even if it is potentially slower than my newer machines.

If i get my benchmark software out and my stopwatch can i find differences in performance, yes...
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f i am just playing games do i notice, for the most part no.



Would i choose single core or multicore performance?

For gaming specifically i would choose the best single core performance.

Why would i do that?

I can't think of a CPU heavy game that really uses more than one core. If there is one it is the exception to the rule rather than the standard. Some occasionally seem to do some minor tasks on other cores but the main game runs on a single core even though it is an obvious bottleneck and the most common complaint with CPU heavy games is why does it not use more than one core.


Would i choose AMD or Intel?

I would choose the best single core performance in your price bracket whichever brand it is.

Why would i do that?

Unless you are using it professionally and really pushing the CPU to it's extreme all the technical differences really means nothing. From experience with gaming, if a game is really pushing a CPU to it's extreme, to the point it is causing issues, your CPU is either outdated or if it is a modern CPU it is usually sloppy coding and no matter what CPU you have it won't be good enough...anyone remember Watchdogs?!

If you are asking a question like this, honestly you will not notice the technical differences between the brands and honestly i doubt anyone can realistically notice the difference between the brands without measuring tools.


Would i worry about P/E cores and hyperthreading (or any other fancy CPU features)?

Again specifically for gaming, i wouldn't really be concerned about most if not all fancy features.

Why wouldn't i be concerned about them?

Considering we have had multicore CPU's for nearly 20 years now and as mentioned already games developers don't actually utilise them properly, even though there are mods for some games that allow the game to utilise multithreading and it makes a huge difference so it can be done, i can't see developers utilising none standard features of CPU's anytime in the future so you are just paying extra for features that add nothing to your gaming experience and are effectively bloat.

[Aluvard]

Personally I wouldn't buy CPU basing it solely on performance in HOI.
Also worth remembering is the fact that drastic upgrade will also mean new motherboard and other components.

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Originally posted by Furball:

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Originally posted by Aluvard:

Personally I wouldn't buy CPU basing it solely on performance in HOI.
Also worth remembering is the fact that drastic upgrade will also mean new motherboard and other components.

I do not care in all honesty, HOI4 is the only game I play.

[Aluvard]

I do not care in all honesty, HOI4 is the only game I play.

Are you using your pc for work or any cpu demanding hobbies (graphic editing, coding etc)?
If it's pc solely for internet, basic business programs and HOI IV - then I agree with @No Waifu No Laifu 🇵🇰 regarding CPU.

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Originally posted by Aluvard:

I do not care in all honesty, HOI4 is the only game I play.

Are you using your pc for work or any cpu demanding hobbies (graphic editing, coding etc)?
If it's pc solely for internet, basic business programs and HOI IV - then I agree with @No Waifu No Laifu 🇵🇰 regarding CPU.

Yes, I do all of the above. That being said, I'm building a little gaming rig with the parts I already have, and just want to know what CPU qualities (i.e single core high clock speed) I should focus on for HOI4.

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Originally posted by No Waifu No Laifu 🇵🇰:

Ryzen x3d chips work best for games like HOI4, so take a look at Ryzen 5800x3d or if you got money to spare then take a look at the new gen Ryzen 7800x3d/7900x3d/7950x3d.

If you go for the latest gen x3d chips then wait till 6th April that's when the 7800x3d will launch, if not then the 5800x3d is no slouch either!

How does a 32 core CPU improve HOI4 performance?

[Aluvard]

It's less about cores and more about L3 cache; apparently pdx games really profits from its size and quality improvement is noticeable in late game.

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[VeniVidiVici]

Originally posted by BOOBA:

Ryzen x3d chips work best for games like HOI4, so take a look at Ryzen 5800x3d or if you got money to spare then take a look at the new gen Ryzen 7800x3d/7900x3d/7950x3d.

If you go for the latest gen x3d chips then wait till 6th April that's when the 7800x3d will launch, if not then the 5800x3d is no slouch either!

Bro, i have 5600x cpu and gpu: rtx 3080 12 gb . i get 38 fps in 1936 and laggy at 1943s. What settings should i play on? 4k or 2k? and what specs of graphic settings?Also i probably buy 9800x3d , what will i get as fps. i want to get at least 40 fps stable. is it possible? as you know, hoi4 is cpu intensive game.

[hannibal_pjv]

Hoi4, BG3 etc. So all games that handles big amounth of units / characters seems to run best wit x3d cpus.
Full raytrasing… go for highend Nvdia GPU… for high rasterization… AMD GPU gives best Bing for the buck in action games…
But in strategy games… buy the fastest CPU you can and at this moment it is 9800x3d!

[hanspni]

Originally posted by VeniVidiVici:

Originally posted by BOOBA:

Ryzen x3d chips work best for games like HOI4, so take a look at Ryzen 5800x3d or if you got money to spare then take a look at the new gen Ryzen 7800x3d/7900x3d/7950x3d.

If you go for the latest gen x3d chips then wait till 6th April that's when the 7800x3d will launch, if not then the 5800x3d is no slouch either!

Bro, i have 5600x cpu and gpu: rtx 3080 12 gb . i get 38 fps in 1936 and laggy at 1943s. What settings should i play on? 4k or 2k? and what specs of graphic settings?Also i probably buy 9800x3d , what will i get as fps. i want to get at least 40 fps stable. is it possible? as you know, hoi4 is cpu intensive game.

I have I9-10980xe CPU and AMD RX6800 XT GPU 64 GB Ram I`m now in 1951 playing with extended tech tree and on avarage i`m above 100 FPS.

[VeniVidiVici]

Originally posted by hanspni:

Originally posted by VeniVidiVici:

Bro, i have 5600x cpu and gpu: rtx 3080 12 gb . i get 38 fps in 1936 and laggy at 1943s. What settings should i play on? 4k or 2k? and what specs of graphic settings?Also i probably buy 9800x3d , what will i get as fps. i want to get at least 40 fps stable. is it possible? as you know, hoi4 is cpu intensive game.

I have I9-10980xe CPU and AMD RX6800 XT GPU 64 GB Ram I`m now in 1951 playing with extended tech tree and on avarage i`m above 100 FPS.

100 fps at how speed? at 5x , how many fps do you get?