Why is the USSR so strong?

[Manski]

Everytime Germany is losing against them. Is that normal? I:

[Noel]

The german AI is dumber than a lobotomized rock. It's pretty easy to beat the USSR as a player Germany.

[Sticky Mouse]

I cant win as either. Ha! Any tips on battles?

[Manski]

Originally posted by SirNoelRules:

The german AI is dumber than a lobotomized rock. It's pretty easy to beat the USSR as a player Germany.

Oh man you are so right I just saw Rommel as the leader of infantry divisions ._.

[Traksimuss]

SU is easy bot boring sloggy fight through vast endless forests and steppes.
Make some 100 infantry divisions to hold lines, 7inf+2art. Rest makes armor divisions, preferably with SPG in the mix. 30 are enough, more just means you can advance faster.
Your armor will cut through enemy easily, just make circles and cut off enemy divisions for infantry to mop up.

Preferably use air support too, but I could beat SU without it as experiment.

[DerMajor]

The USSR is so strong, because they have no debuff, this especially counts for multiplayer. They can tech up and produce from the beginning like germany, just with far more manpower and factories.

[24 | 素食警察]

I've seen Germany walk right over the Soviets in some of my games to be honest.

[Gustaf]

It seems nobody has actually played the game, or if they are, they're lying, or exaggerating.

The USSR is strong the longer the game goes on because of getting rod of the Officer Purge and then getting lots of benefits, as well as building more factories and producing more divisions. (Things that take time)

If you play as Germany, it is extremely possible to take all of the USSR, especially on anything except for the hardest difficulty. :)

But you do need to remember, historically, Germany only won in the beginning, then the Soviets pushed them back and, with the allies, won the war. :)

[Tiny Tyrant]

The USSR has massive problems at the start, it's start is not much better than France's or the USA's. The Soviets build everything slower, the purge ruins the combat effectiveness of all their armies, and avoiding the purge has it's own set of problems.

Germany, played by people especially, can steamroll the USSR. If the Soviets get dragged into a war with the Germans before they've solved their horrendous problems, they die.

None of this matters between the AI however, because the largest problem of all of course, is the state of the game's AI. Seriously, the German AI can't find their own ass in the dark with the aid of a flashlight. Whenever Paradox decides they wanna fix the AI, Germany should start making it past 1943 again.

[Exarch_Alpha]

Originally posted by Make Austria great again ©:

Oh man you are so right I just saw Rommel as the leader of infantry divisions ._.

Lol that´s not how it works. Panzer divisions aren´t only tanks, so it´s not like he would ever even be commanding 24 divisions of medium armor and SPG or any other vehicle, of 40 width...

There will be infantry always. So, what really matters is that he will be giving bonus to the PART of the army that is tanks while gaining skill, which will then benefit everything he commands. If you make several small armies of generals commanding 3 or 4 panzer divisions, you are playing wrong. Once a general is commited he should be commanding his limit of 24, even if he won´t get the direct bonus of the Trait.

[Manski]

Originally posted by Exarch_Alpha:

Originally posted by Make Austria great again ©:

Oh man you are so right I just saw Rommel as the leader of infantry divisions ._.

Lol that´s not how it works. Panzer divisions aren´t only tanks, so it´s not like he would ever even be commanding 24 divisions of medium armor and SPG or any other vehicle, of 40 width...

There will be infantry always. So, what really matters is that he will be giving bonus to the PART of the army that is tanks while gaining skill, which will then benefit everything he commands. If you make several small armies of generals commanding 3 or 4 panzer divisions, you are playing wrong. Once a general is commited he should be commanding his limit of 24, even if he won´t get the direct bonus of the Trait.

I mean he commanded infantry only without tanks. I know how to play the game thx :D

[Kojema]

france copitualted germany in one of my games

[Metal Izanagi]

A lot of the problem is that the AI is /terrible/ at managing a multi-front war. Unless he gets lucky, Hitler will get rocked like a hurricane because he will in very quick succession declare war on a large number of the following: (We're talking usually within a year he'll declare war on most or all of these.)

Czechoslovakia

Poland(Along with anyone that joined/was forced into Miedzymorze, which usually consists of Lithuania, Latvia, and Estonia.)

France

Belgium

Luxembourg

Netherlands

Denmark

Norway

Yugoslavia

Soviet Union


This results in Hitler frantically sending divisions across his entire country, and also to Italy and Africa because the AI doesn't know how to prioritize its own borders over Africa. Oh, and if Japan has joined/later joins the Axis, Hitler will also send some guys over to Japan, though they usually get sent to the bottom of the English Channel by the English navy because the AI doesn't take into consideration that enemy navies exist or that they won't just let troop transports move past them unopposed.

[Barry White]

Well, the SU was pretty strong historically and Germany did lose to them...

However, thats not the whole reason. The AI is painfully bad and the Germans dont know how to take advantage of their initial superiority. The purge often has no bearing on the war either since if its done as one of the first NFs then the debuff will be gone before 41.

Historically the Germans did much better than anyone could have really expected on both fronts. Expecting them to win against the SU without player intervention isnt something which should happen.

[Montavious]

In my games, Germany steamrolls the USSR 9 out of 10 times and becomes a powerhouse right off the bat. You think it would be more of a stalemate, but one always steamrolls the other.

[Onomas]

Last game I played Italy, and allied with Germany. Germany built no..... let me repeat........ NO land units units other than navy. Once war broke out everyone just bumrushed Germany, and ....well you can imagine the rest.