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saiyanexos Jul 5, 2016 @ 4:14pm
what are top 5 strongest minor nations
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gyzbug Jul 5, 2016 @ 4:25pm 
I would say China (75 Slots), Spain (75 Slots), Poland (64 Slots), Brazil (41 Slots), and Turkey (48 Slots).

Poland has its own Political Tree making it more Interesting.
British Raj and Australia are also good but stuck under the control of the UK at the start.
Tiberius Jul 5, 2016 @ 4:25pm 
Originally posted by saiyanexos:
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Brazil.
Mexico.
Spain ( it is not one the main nations right? So it's one of the strongest minors ).
Scandinavian countries like Sweden,Norway,Finland.
Canada.
Australia...

A few more than five..but enough I guess.
Sohei Jul 5, 2016 @ 4:27pm 
You can sort the list by building slots or whatever other measure you like:
http://www.hoi4wiki.com/Countries

Which are the top 5 strongest overall is debatable depending on how you measure strength.
Last edited by Sohei; Jul 5, 2016 @ 4:29pm
Noel Jul 5, 2016 @ 4:28pm 
TL:DR:Turkey and the Balkans.
1. Romania: Pretty easy to switch to facist, and since you have a surperior army than your neighbors you can easily crush hungary and yugoslavia before WWII breaks out, then you can join the axis and heavily effect the war.
2. Turkey: After turning facist or communist you can pretty easily conquer greece with a naval invasion, and you can secure resources from the middle east before WWII starts. Then you can join either the comintern or axis and have a decent effect on the war.
3. Greece: Essentially Turkey lite.
4. Yugoslavia: Romania lite.
5. Poland: Strong, but since their likely enemy is Germany that strength needs significant skill to back it up.
Last edited by Noel; Jul 5, 2016 @ 4:32pm
Tiberius Jul 5, 2016 @ 4:30pm 
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
TL:DR:Turkey and the Balkans.
1. Romania: Pretty easy to switch to facist, and since you have a surperior army than your neighbors you can easily crush hungary and yugoslavia before WWII breaks out, then you can join the axis and heavily effect the war.
2. Turkey: After turning facist or communist you can pretty easily conquer greece with a naval invasion, and you can secure resources from the middle east before WWII starts. Then you can join either the comintern or axis and have a decent effect on the war.
3. Greece: Essentially Turkey lite.
4. Yugoslavia: Romania lite.
5. Poland: Strong, but sinc etheir likely enemy is Germany that strength needs significant skill to back it up.

Good answer.

I am not too sure about what the OP means by " STRONG ".

An ingame nation can be strong in so many different ways, either by geographical-location, amount of factories, research slots, amount of starting troops......... etc .... etc ...... etc.

A proper definition of STRONG would be helpful I guess.
tinsword2000 Jul 5, 2016 @ 5:04pm 
The Chinese warlords in Yunnan use to be good before the patch. Now, I'd say Turkey, Romania, Poland, China, and Portugal. The problem with Spain is that pesky civil war, also they have no colonial empire worth anything.
N'Zoth Jul 5, 2016 @ 5:19pm 
In order?
Nationalist China
Poland
Romania
Sweden
Finland
MidnightCoffee Jul 5, 2016 @ 6:19pm 
1.- Yugoslavia: TAKE OVER ITALY WHEN THEYRE DISTRACTED WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Yugo is my favorite minor to play, so much fun. Feels like you just get a lot of options or can do your own thing.

2.- China: War with Japan is a bit tough but it's really fun.

3.- Either Spain: Both are fun and can lead to some pretty exciting wars and alt history.

4.- Poland: Take over Germany, become fascist, fool everyone, Hitler was secretly working for Poland all along.

5.- Turkey: Kinda the same as Yugoslavia. Just lots of options, join Allies, Axis, whatever!
Trabman21 Jul 5, 2016 @ 6:23pm 
Actually, the People's Republic of China is a suprisingly easy state to start out with. Sure you're behind in tech, but they start out with the policies of Total Mobilization, Closed Economy, and Service by Requirment (after gaining enough political power this can be changed to extensive constription, getting rid of the negative bonuses to factory output).

As PRC you can easilty take over the other three northern Chinese states without outside interference. Also, after completing the industrial focus tree, you get a bunch of factories, production bonus, and extra research slots. If you're lucky you might be able to take out Yunnan and Gaungxi before your war with Japan getting all those nice resources to help in your effort to take control of China in the name of the people :steamhappy:

Also, you don't need to join in China's alliance, allowing you to sit back, relax, and watch Japan rape China until you have built yourself an army capable of crushing the evil imperialists :steammocking:
Last edited by Trabman21; Jul 5, 2016 @ 6:25pm
Warhunter Jul 5, 2016 @ 7:01pm 
sweden is in a good spot. due to having really amazing resources. conquering finland,norway and denmark shouldn't pose much problems allowing you to easily build up alot faster than most minor nations

any of the two chinas. they have the most population in the game (i believe 2-3 times more than the soviets) and decent amount of resources. only downside is the war with japan taking some time because invading an island sucks especially when your eco isn't the best

canada/mexico will only say they are good because the US is on their borders. and if you can beat the US the gains are massive. 1/3 of the world's resources (or close enough to this because its insane) and 170ish factories. and due to being isolated from the rest of the world puts you in a good position to do whatever you want

netherlands. they start off with a lot of rubber and decent resources only problem is being very close to the war. through you could place forts in europe and focus on conquering asia first.

luxembourg because nobody expects them to conquer the world (sarcasm) =P
8mm Solutions Jul 5, 2016 @ 7:24pm 
Actually with the AI being borderline retarded any minor is a superpower.
Ray Tracy Jul 5, 2016 @ 9:07pm 
-for sweden to become strong u need to change soldier recruitment policies early or u wont be able to even deploy ships due to low manpower. kinda high resources and geographical location strong points of sweden
-for me being strong is all about your industrial power so i would go with a nation got high building slots and this approach gives us 2 different routes to take, do you want to deal with garmany, or uk or spanish civil war or even japan? if yes your answers are spain, poland, netherlands, british raj and china for second route, do you want to deal with other countries only when u want to deal with them ? then the answer is turkey and maybe brazil.
Royal Coyote Jul 5, 2016 @ 9:12pm 
Cuba
Nretnimoc Jul 6, 2016 @ 2:17pm 
Originally posted by Trabman21 HoR: RAMRPC:
Actually, the People's Republic of China is a suprisingly easy state to start out with. Sure you're behind in tech, but they start out with the policies of Total Mobilization, Closed Economy, and Service by Requirment (after gaining enough political power this can be changed to extensive constription, getting rid of the negative bonuses to factory output).

As PRC you can easilty take over the other three northern Chinese states without outside interference. Also, after completing the industrial focus tree, you get a bunch of factories, production bonus, and extra research slots. If you're lucky you might be able to take out Yunnan and Gaungxi before your war with Japan getting all those nice resources to help in your effort to take control of China in the name of the people :steamhappy:

Exactly what I did! Though, I was less confident about my ability to take on Japan and joined the Comintern.

I was surprised how quick the PRC could bulk up without interference from anyone. Allies even sat back and watched as I Took Tibet & Nepal. I chose not to side with the Imperial Dogs and let them get beaten up by the Axis while the PLA and Soviet Armies 'liberated' Korea.

Ronnek Jul 6, 2016 @ 2:29pm 
In my PRC game I was invited to the axis and me Germany and Japan 3wayed the soviets. At that point though I had to restart because Japan was xbox huge.
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