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King RSC Jun 30, 2016 @ 12:58pm
Hitler Is Missing.
I live in the US and I can not see Hitler After the New 1.1 update. I don't know what is wrong.
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Noel Jul 2, 2016 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
Yet again-where did the pictures of holocaust victims come from?
And the jurty was international, from nuetral contries in some cases, and there a pictures from the trials. None show any evidence of Nazis being tortured.
Also, are you really asking how a great power got ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ pesticide? How about you ask your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ exterminator the next time you see a cockroach. As for how they were filtered-what exactly do you mean?
who knows how those pictures came around?
an international jury in which the soviet union was involved, communist law isn't fair.
of course there's no evidence, most of the germans testifying wore suits or something close, it would be dumb to leave a mark on their hands or faces.

a gas chamber would need a good filtering system to get rid of so much gas, or else whenever a prison guard would have opened the door, he would have been severely harmed by the gas escaping the chamber
You're the one claiming the pictures are BS, so YOU provide a way for them to exist. You can't just claim evidence is fabricated by saying "Who knows".
International law was operating through the nuremburg trials, not communist law.
Don't ya think at least one of the germans would have rolled up their sleeves if they were being tortured so that the evidence could be shown? Or hell, don't ya think one of them would have claimed that the allies were breaking international law via torture?
They had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gas masks. Tere's ur filtration system.
Last edited by Noel; Jul 2, 2016 @ 1:37pm
Unexpected Jul 2, 2016 @ 1:39pm 
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
who knows how those pictures came around?
an international jury in which the soviet union was involved, communist law isn't fair.
of course there's no evidence, most of the germans testifying wore suits or something close, it would be dumb to leave a mark on their hands or faces.

a gas chamber would need a good filtering system to get rid of so much gas, or else whenever a prison guard would have opened the door, he would have been severely harmed by the gas escaping the chamber
You're the one claiming the picture are BS, so YOU provide a way for them to exist. You can't just claim evidence is fabricated by saying "Who knows".
International law was operating through the nuremburg trials, not communist law.
Don't ya think at least one of the germans would have rolled up their sleeves if they were being tortured so that the evidence could be shown? Or hell, don't ya think one of them would have claimed that the allies were breaking international law via torture?
They had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gas masks. Tere's ur filtration system.
"who knows" is a good answer though, there's no way to truly find out how thoses pictures came to exist.
if they rolled up their sleeves to show signs of torture, the cameras would go off and they would be dead men, you can't just tell the world you're being tortured when your tormentor is in the same room.

also, using gas masks would be a bit redundant, every time a gas chamber was supposedly used, some poor soul would have to put on a mask and remove dozens of bodies, and all of that toxic gas would still flow outside
Exarch_Alpha Jul 2, 2016 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
You're the one claiming the pictures are BS, so YOU provide a way for them to exist. You can't just claim evidence is fabricated by saying "Who knows".

They had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gas masks. Tere's ur filtration system.

Man, don´t bother.

"Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." —Greg King
Noel Jul 2, 2016 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
You're the one claiming the picture are BS, so YOU provide a way for them to exist. You can't just claim evidence is fabricated by saying "Who knows".
International law was operating through the nuremburg trials, not communist law.
Don't ya think at least one of the germans would have rolled up their sleeves if they were being tortured so that the evidence could be shown? Or hell, don't ya think one of them would have claimed that the allies were breaking international law via torture?
They had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gas masks. Tere's ur filtration system.
"who knows" is a good answer though, there's no way to truly find out how thoses pictures came to exist.
if they rolled up their sleeves to show signs of torture, the cameras would go off and they would be dead men, you can't just tell the world you're being tortured when your tormentor is in the same room.

also, using gas masks would be a bit redundant, every time a gas chamber was supposedly used, some poor soul would have to put on a mask and remove dozens of bodies, and all of that toxic gas would still flow outside
Then find any evidence those picture didn't come from the Holocaust. At all.
Oh sure, and all the world's juries would just kindly watch as allied thugs murdered peple during a fair trial.
I'm fairly certain that there were drains on the floors of the gas chambetrs (though I may be mistaken there) but even if there weren't the gas would be too diluted outside to cause any damage.
Unexpected Jul 2, 2016 @ 1:48pm 
Originally posted by Exarch_Alpha:
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
You're the one claiming the pictures are BS, so YOU provide a way for them to exist. You can't just claim evidence is fabricated by saying "Who knows".

They had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gas masks. Tere's ur filtration system.

Man, don´t bother.

"Don’t argue with idiots because they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience." —Greg King
i like how you're still implying i'm an idiot as opposed to telling me why you think i'm wrong, this is very typical
Unexpected Jul 2, 2016 @ 1:50pm 
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
"who knows" is a good answer though, there's no way to truly find out how thoses pictures came to exist.
if they rolled up their sleeves to show signs of torture, the cameras would go off and they would be dead men, you can't just tell the world you're being tortured when your tormentor is in the same room.

also, using gas masks would be a bit redundant, every time a gas chamber was supposedly used, some poor soul would have to put on a mask and remove dozens of bodies, and all of that toxic gas would still flow outside
Then find any evidence those picture didn't come from the Holocaust. At all.
Oh sure, and all the world's juries would just kindly watch as allied thugs murdered peple during a fair trial.
I'm fairly certain that there were drains on the floors of the gas chambetrs (though I may be mistaken there) but even if there weren't the gas would be too diluted outside to cause any damage.
of course they would watch, they didn't mind the allies bombing dresden and hamburg, what's a few more german lives?
Noel Jul 2, 2016 @ 1:53pm 
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
Then find any evidence those picture didn't come from the Holocaust. At all.
Oh sure, and all the world's juries would just kindly watch as allied thugs murdered peple during a fair trial.
I'm fairly certain that there were drains on the floors of the gas chambetrs (though I may be mistaken there) but even if there weren't the gas would be too diluted outside to cause any damage.
of course they would watch, they didn't mind the allies bombing dresden and hamburg, what's a few more german lives?
Strategic bombing was used on all sides and completely ignored at nuremburg. Try again.
EDIT:Additionally, international law at the time was very poorly written when it came to aerial bombing.
Last edited by Noel; Jul 2, 2016 @ 2:01pm
Unexpected Jul 2, 2016 @ 2:06pm 
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
of course they would watch, they didn't mind the allies bombing dresden and hamburg, what's a few more german lives?
Strategic bombing was used on all sides and completely ignored at nuremburg. Try again.
EDIT:Additionally, international law at the time was very poorly written when it came to aerial bombing.
does strategic bombing mean totally ruining dresden?
Noel Jul 2, 2016 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
Strategic bombing was used on all sides and completely ignored at nuremburg. Try again.
EDIT:Additionally, international law at the time was very poorly written when it came to aerial bombing.
does strategic bombing mean totally ruining dresden?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_bombing
blaccbeard Jul 2, 2016 @ 2:43pm 
lol why does everybody want to see Hitler's face so bad. Unless you're some mindless zombie idiot who just stares at leader's portraits all day you should be playing the game and not be so focused on 1 guy's face.
Adam Apples Jul 2, 2016 @ 8:43pm 
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
You're the one claiming the picture are BS, so YOU provide a way for them to exist. You can't just claim evidence is fabricated by saying "Who knows".
International law was operating through the nuremburg trials, not communist law.
Don't ya think at least one of the germans would have rolled up their sleeves if they were being tortured so that the evidence could be shown? Or hell, don't ya think one of them would have claimed that the allies were breaking international law via torture?
They had ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ gas masks. Tere's ur filtration system.
"who knows" is a good answer though, there's no way to truly find out how thoses pictures came to exist.
if they rolled up their sleeves to show signs of torture, the cameras would go off and they would be dead men, you can't just tell the world you're being tortured when your tormentor is in the same room.

also, using gas masks would be a bit redundant, every time a gas chamber was supposedly used, some poor soul would have to put on a mask and remove dozens of bodies, and all of that toxic gas would still flow outside
What's your retort against former guards of the camps 50 years later recounting their actions, explaining they didn't feel they were doing anything wrong due to their antisemitic indoctrination under hitler. Their recounts of how and why the gas chambers were used, how they began in a room attached to a car exhaust and later 'advanced' into the zyklone b system we're more familiar with. Are they still under duress? 50 years later when they're being asked pointedly 'how the f could you do this?'. How Jewish survivors tell the same story, then and now; from the other side of the fence.

It's actually a ludicrous notion to think all these people are in on this massive - not even a cover up, but a complete fabrication of history. And still so 50 years after the fact.

Go to one of the camp sites then tell me it didn't happen. But I think you could fit 999 pieces of a 1000 piece jigsaw and still argue what it depicted.
Last edited by Adam Apples; Jul 2, 2016 @ 8:44pm
Unexpected Jul 2, 2016 @ 8:45pm 
Originally posted by Adam Apples:
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
"who knows" is a good answer though, there's no way to truly find out how thoses pictures came to exist.
if they rolled up their sleeves to show signs of torture, the cameras would go off and they would be dead men, you can't just tell the world you're being tortured when your tormentor is in the same room.

also, using gas masks would be a bit redundant, every time a gas chamber was supposedly used, some poor soul would have to put on a mask and remove dozens of bodies, and all of that toxic gas would still flow outside
What's your retort against former guards of the camps 50 years later recounting their actions, explaining they didn't feel they were doing anything wrong due to their antisemitic indoctrination under hitler. Their recounts of how and why the gas chambers were used, how they began in a room attached to a car exhaust and later 'advanced' into the zyklone b system we're more familiar with. Are they still under duress? 50 years later when they're being asked pointedly 'how the f could you do this?'. How Jewish survives tell the same story, then and now; from the other side of the fence.

It's actually a ludicrous notion to think all these people are in on this massive - not even a cover up, but a complete fabrication of history. And still so 50 years after the fact.

Go to one of the camp sites then tell me it didn't happen. But I think you could fit 999 pieces of a 1000 piece jigsaw and argue what it depicted.
former prison guards get hunted down, deported to germany and promptly arrested, of course they're going to say they murdered people, as denial would get them more time in prison, it's a lose-lose.
of course jewish survivors would say it happened.
Last edited by Unexpected; Jul 2, 2016 @ 8:46pm
Noel Jul 2, 2016 @ 8:47pm 
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
Originally posted by Adam Apples:
What's your retort against former guards of the camps 50 years later recounting their actions, explaining they didn't feel they were doing anything wrong due to their antisemitic indoctrination under hitler. Their recounts of how and why the gas chambers were used, how they began in a room attached to a car exhaust and later 'advanced' into the zyklone b system we're more familiar with. Are they still under duress? 50 years later when they're being asked pointedly 'how the f could you do this?'. How Jewish survives tell the same story, then and now; from the other side of the fence.

It's actually a ludicrous notion to think all these people are in on this massive - not even a cover up, but a complete fabrication of history. And still so 50 years after the fact.

Go to one of the camp sites then tell me it didn't happen. But I think you could fit 999 pieces of a 1000 piece jigsaw and argue what it depicted.
former prison guards get hunted down, deported to germans and promptly arrested, of course they're going to say they murdered people, as denial would get them more time in prison, it's a lose-lose.
of course jewish survivors would say it happened.
But why are all accounts consistent?
Unexpected Jul 2, 2016 @ 8:52pm 
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
former prison guards get hunted down, deported to germans and promptly arrested, of course they're going to say they murdered people, as denial would get them more time in prison, it's a lose-lose.
of course jewish survivors would say it happened.
But why are all accounts consistent?
if every story is the same, then something isn't right
Noel Jul 2, 2016 @ 8:55pm 
Originally posted by Unexpected Jihad:
Originally posted by SirNoelRules:
But why are all accounts consistent?
if every story is the same, then something isn't right
Consistent, not the same. There's a big difference there.
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