Hearts of Iron IV

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MelGibson Jun 25, 2016 @ 7:52am
What's the point of civilian factories?
To me they seem useless and only slow the building of military factories and military production. Why are civilian factories in this game?
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Eric Cartman Jun 25, 2016 @ 7:55am 
More civ fac's = quicker building of other bildinga. Not to mention you trade some away for resources.
Sinclair Jun 25, 2016 @ 7:56am 
civilian factories actually are very important, withouth them you can't build military, naval ports, AA, forts etc.
Triggerhippy Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:01am 
They are what build your military factories. Also they build everything else, ports, infrastructure, AA, forts etc.

However most importantly they are what you trade away to trade resources. In fact military factories are fairly pointless not the other way round. You can build 100's of military factories and it won't make any/much difference if you can't feed them with resources.

For most countries somewhere between 50-100 military factories you'll hit a sort of soft cap because you'll not have enough of some type of resource.
MelGibson Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:01am 
How do civilian factories make other buildings faster?
Muhabla Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by Triggerhippy:

For most countries somewhere between 50-100 military factories you'll hit a sort of soft cap because you'll not have enough of some type of resource.

Unless you got 100-200 civ factories and buy everything there is on the market.

Kinda wishing you could buy your own stuff there too that the trade law forces you to trade away


Originally posted by MelGibson:
How do civilian factories make other buildings faster?

Wut?

Civilian factories build other factores (military/shipyards ) and the other stuff you need.

Quit trolling bruh
Last edited by Muhabla; Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:04am
Saor Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:03am 
Originally posted by MelGibson:
How do civilian factories make other buildings faster?

The more civ factories you have the faster you will build egvery other buliding , on your construction screen you will see the number of civ factories being used to construct each building
Eric Cartman Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:04am 
Originally posted by MelGibson:
How do civilian factories make other buildings faster?
A total of 15 civ fac's can work together to build something else at any given time. It increases production speed. Say you have 45 free civ factories, they can produce 3 buildings (AA, Mil, etc) at max speed.
[NL]Ibahalii Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:04am 
Civilian factories stack up to a max of 15 per other building.
the more factories, the quicker something is build.
Build time research also decreases the build process more by -10% of the total amount of civil factories building on a project.
MelGibson Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:07am 
To me civilian factories seem like they are not needed for this game. It makes it over complicated. I thought this was a game about war not a building game. It should be you need to build military factories.
Last edited by MelGibson; Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:07am
Triggerhippy Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:07am 
Originally posted by MelGibson:
How do civilian factories make other buildings faster?

When you build any type of building it is built by your civilian factories, stack a load of other building into the queue and you'll see. Each building can have upto 15 civilian factories working on them at once. So if you have 15 spare civilian factories you can be building one other building at a time, where as if you have say 45 civilian factories spare you can be working on three other buildings at once. (at full speed, if less than blocks of 15 then you can be working on extra building but the 2nd one will be a a slower speed)
[NL]Ibahalii Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:09am 
Originally posted by MelGibson:
To me civilian factories seem like they are not needed for this game. It makes it over complicated. I thought this was a game about war not a building game. It should be you need to build military factories.

which is what you need to do. and civilian factories help you with that.
And it's called a GRAND(g)-RTS game for a reason.
There is more to it then just war.
Triggerhippy Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:10am 
Originally posted by Muhabla:
Originally posted by Triggerhippy:

For most countries somewhere between 50-100 military factories you'll hit a sort of soft cap because you'll not have enough of some type of resource.

Unless you got 100-200 civ factories and buy everything there is on the market.

I know which is the point we are trying to make to the OP who thinks he can just build military factories and civilian factories are pointless.
Madcat Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:12am 
The best way I could answer this: 10 bees can build a honeycomb. 1000 bees can build it much faster. CIV factorys are for building your infrastructure. The more CIV factorys you have, the more concurrent projects you can work on at once.
Phoenix VII Jun 25, 2016 @ 8:20am 
Civilian factories are important for buying resources, 1 factory lets you buy 8 units of a resource which helps alot in the late game if you want to fight World War 3, Resources will be a severe bottleneck for your military factories if you don't have enough civilian factories and you'll need alot if you're building planes, tanks, mechanized equipment, motorized equipment, and several production lines of infantry equipment...even more so if you're building more naval units as well. You can mitigate your dependence on some resources by building refineries that produce oil and rubber, but you'll still have to get at least some of the other resources through trade.
Tiberius Jun 25, 2016 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by MelGibson:
To me they seem useless and only slow the building of military factories and military production. Why are civilian factories in this game?

You would not ask this question if you would have played the tutorial.

The tutorial makes very clear to build CIVILIAN factories first, since it speeds up construction and is required for trading.
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Date Posted: Jun 25, 2016 @ 7:52am
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