Why Are Artillery Battalions So Huge?

[LukeTheSp00k]

I didn't notice this before, but it occurred to me that Artillery battalions in this game are equipped with 36 guns. Like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ son - for those who don't know, a single WW2 artillery battalion usually only had 12 guns, so this "battalion" is the equivalent of an IRL artillery regiment.

I thought that maybe it might be to make up for the fact they got rid of the OOB, so there's no such thing as Corps Artillery, but there's still too many guns even accounting for that.

Oversight? Or are they trying to make it easy to add a reasonable amount of artillery to your division without spending 15 Land XP? But then again, they don't "discount" other units that way, so....

[Sohei]

Pretty sure those units you add to divisions are supposed to represent brigades so they would represent several battalions each.

[Zuul]

"Make a selection to change or add battalion".

They're supposed to be battalion's.

That being said, much like each unit of infantry equipment doesn't represent a single gun, but an abstract instead. We can assume each unit of artillery doesn't represent a single gun, but instead simply an abstracted amount of equipment including everything from the guns themselves to the ammunition.

TL:DR Imagine there's as many artillery pieces as you want.

[LukeTheSp00k]

Originally posted by Sohei:

Pretty sure those units you add to divisions are supposed to represent brigades so they would represent several battalions each.

A brigade is a regiment reinforced with sufficient attached units to allow it to operate indepedantly of a division. The units you add to the division designer are battalions, not regiments.

[Sohei]

Okay, I guess they are supposed to be battalions.

Both brigades and regiments can be organized into divisions and operate as a whole. I personally was in a battalion within a brigade within a division. Our brigade operated as a component of the division.

HOI3 had more detail with the order of battle and components within it. HOI4 seems more abstract without this. HOI3 mentioned brigades in the game but I forget what they were referring to in game.

[LukeTheSp00k]

Originally posted by Sohei:

Okay, I guess they are supposed to be battalions.

Both brigades and regiments can be organized into divisions and operate as a whole. I personally was in a battalion within a brigade within a division. Our brigade operated as a component of the division.

HOI3 had more detail with the order of battle and components within it. HOI4 seems more abstract without this. HOI3 mentioned brigades in the game but I forget what they were referring to in game.

HOI3 actually had a far less detailed OOB for its divisions because you could only create entire brigades, not battalions. They were brigades rather than regiments because the game didn't contain divisional support units and smaller subunits, so they slapped these onto the regiments to make them brigades and thus if you put a few brigades together, voila you have a division without having to add actual divisional-level personnel on top of the regiments.

Divisions do still exist in modern armies but usually as a skeleton or a theoretical command structure, only actually being activated and deployed as such if WW3 breaks out or something. Because wars are often smaller-scale, the deployment of entire divisions is usually not needed. However, those lone regiments deployed by themselves still need division-level support units, so you slap those onto a regiment whenever it deploys to a combat zone - voila, you have your brigades.