Savegame Crash

[Ace]

Cant play my Savegames.

When i load one and start the time, the game crashes, with no reasons. Why?

[Midnight Fenrir]

Is the save from a different version of the game?

Did you download mods from the workshop that you didn't have before then try to load the save?

[Ace]

No Savegame is from yesterday. No Mods!

[Včelí medvídek]

Savagmes tend to corrupt in time, but if NONE works, obviously it must be cause by some change in game - patch and mods are obvious answers.

[sempiternal]

Yeah, same problem here. I was just about to nuke the US in Spain as fascist Romania and now I can't get back to the game. Damn!

[Santos]

Same

[Conscript]

I know that feel. I had an ironman game from yesterday and today and it crashes two days after the save game. I already destroyed the SU, UK, all hostile european countries while Japan took care of the east. I landed in the US and then that happens. Big rip.

[Abstract-Player]

Sorry for old thread. October now.

Same problems here..

Was starting a campaign and reached 1944/1945 with just a few savegames and 6-month-autosave.

Few days later I was starting a new campaign. I made it to November 1936. I made tons of savegames.. one before every change in the game and many after events. Autosave is set to monthly.

Always the same: I play and play and play.. and do savegames and savegames and savegames.. and reload sometimes a savegame with success.. or restart the game next day after sleep/work.

But suddenly I cannot load a savegame. One of the savegames I could load and use 1 hour before or yesterday. But today: NoNo! Then I try to load the savegame before.. and the savegame before that.. but nothing works. If I'm lucky I find a savegame which works.. so I can roll up ingame all again.

My CTD count must be around 50-70 now.. in 40 hours of gameplay.

The game is always crashing after loading a savegame.. when I un-pause the game and it counts ( ingame ) +1 hour.. or +1 day.. or +1 month.

Have tryed to verify game cache, restart game, restart steam, restart computer. Nothing works.


Some workarounds which could work for you

A) If a savegame crash after un-pausing it.. restart game, load the savegame, save it again, and load the new savegame ( without restarting or un-pausing the game! ). Sometimes this helped me. But often the new savegame will also fail later if you restart the game.

Reason: I don't know why but sometimes if you save and load a broken savegame again after loading it.. the game will not crash. There is a small chance that the game can "repair" the savegame.

B) If the ingame time of your savegame is at 1/2 or 22/23 hours.. and it's crashing after un-pausing it. Search your savegame file and open it with editor. You need to set HoI4 to save in plain text **. Check the 4. line: date="1936.6.10.23" ( YYYY.M.D.H ). Change the time to 10 or something else.. not near end/start of a day. Then save it and load the savegame.

Reason: I had a such a savegame and after un-pausing, it had to calculate a day-change. It was crashing every single time. As I changed the time.. it didn't crashed. But this worked just 2 or 3 times for me so far.

C) If the ingame day of your savegame is at the first or last 1-2 days of a month.. and it's crashing after un-pausing it. Do the same as with B) and change the day. You could even try to set it to the next day around 10-12 hours.

Reason: Same as above. The game has to calculate a lot at the end of a day and at the end of a month.. and it also looks that there is a lot to do at the beginning.

D) If your savegame/s crash.. try to set the ingame speed to slowest before un-pausing it. This is not often helpful.. but 1 or 2 times it helped me.

Reason: Not sure about it. My best interpretion is that if you play and play and play.. without loading savegames.. then the game is somehow in a "flow". But if you load a savegame you throw your game into all the actions which it has to perform from scratch. This could be the reason why my early savegames never crash. Only those with tons of units and orders.

E) Historical events. Many events are broken or popup at a very wrong time or very to late. I think this caused some of my CTDs at day-change. And it would explain why the broken savegame runs fine if I edit it to +1 day and 10/12 hours.

[**] Settings and Savegame

Go to C:\Users\*username*\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV

There you will find a settings.txt

Change save_as_binary=yes to =no. So the game will save your savegames in plain text and you can edit them with text-editors ( try Notepad++ / Notepad2 ).

[Abstract-Player]

Was trying around right now with compatibility modes. I'm running Win 10 64 bit. Was testing Win 8 and Win 7 compatibility. Some of the broken savegames just start working after un-pausing them.

But later I ran into same problem again. Always 1936.8.9.. and now all the ( daily ) savegames before too. Have captured Leningrad 1-2 days before. Could be an event. And savegame says something about Spanish civil war. I think there is an event breaking my savegame.

Or something else.. I was looking into the log-files of the game. exceptions.log has around 100 error messages.

~15 times

######## EXCEPTION: 0xC0000005 at address: 0x006CC228: ACCESS VIOLATION read attempt to address 0x00000048
Version: Unknown Version
10/23/16 01:34:08

~80 times

######## EXCEPTION: 0xC0000094 at address: 0x006185B1: INT DIVIDE BY ZERO
Version: Unknown Version
10/23/16 15:32:49

More as half of the time stamps are from oct 27 and oct 28.. would place a bet on that these messages show all the game crashes..


Edit:

This was a hit. Always if my game crashes.. it generates a new entry in the exceptions.log.. I hope they can address this bug asap.

And there is a new message in graphics.log:

[03:38:41][pdxmapgeneration.cpp:372]: Too small river found at 3122.000, 627.000

[profile]

My ironman save games always crash at 24:00 hours, I cant edit ironman save games because it's encrypted. Loading the ironman save only postpones the crash by one ingame day. Is there anything else I can do?

[Abstract-Player]

Actually I'm not sure about that. But you need to set your game settings to de-crypted files. Then the game will save the savegames in plaintext.

Just search the forum for it.

But there is a chance that ironman save will always be encrypted.

[lukas]

Originally posted by Tha Big Fellah:

My ironman save games always crash at 24:00 hours, I cant edit ironman save games because it's encrypted. Loading the ironman save only postpones the crash by one ingame day. Is there anything else I can do?

It's not encrypted, it's a binary file. Lil.Monster is right, in the settings file one can change it, so that savegames will be stored as plaintext files in the future.

Do you use mods?

[profile]

Originally posted by lukas:

Originally posted by Tha Big Fellah:

My ironman save games always crash at 24:00 hours, I cant edit ironman save games because it's encrypted. Loading the ironman save only postpones the crash by one ingame day. Is there anything else I can do?

It's not encrypted, it's a binary file. Lil.Monster is right, in the settings file one can change it, so that savegames will be stored as plaintext files in the future.

Do you use mods?

jawhol

[Koci chłopiec]

Hi i use mods and my 10 min save crashing

[Drod™]

Originally posted by Abstract-Player:

Sorry for old thread. October now.

Same problems here..

Was starting a campaign and reached 1944/1945 with just a few savegames and 6-month-autosave.

Few days later I was starting a new campaign. I made it to November 1936. I made tons of savegames.. one before every change in the game and many after events. Autosave is set to monthly.

Always the same: I play and play and play.. and do savegames and savegames and savegames.. and reload sometimes a savegame with success.. or restart the game next day after sleep/work.

But suddenly I cannot load a savegame. One of the savegames I could load and use 1 hour before or yesterday. But today: NoNo! Then I try to load the savegame before.. and the savegame before that.. but nothing works. If I'm lucky I find a savegame which works.. so I can roll up ingame all again.

My CTD count must be around 50-70 now.. in 40 hours of gameplay.

The game is always crashing after loading a savegame.. when I un-pause the game and it counts ( ingame ) +1 hour.. or +1 day.. or +1 month.

Have tryed to verify game cache, restart game, restart steam, restart computer. Nothing works.


Some workarounds which could work for you

A) If a savegame crash after un-pausing it.. restart game, load the savegame, save it again, and load the new savegame ( without restarting or un-pausing the game! ). Sometimes this helped me. But often the new savegame will also fail later if you restart the game.

Reason: I don't know why but sometimes if you save and load a broken savegame again after loading it.. the game will not crash. There is a small chance that the game can "repair" the savegame.

B) If the ingame time of your savegame is at 1/2 or 22/23 hours.. and it's crashing after un-pausing it. Search your savegame file and open it with editor. You need to set HoI4 to save in plain text **. Check the 4. line: date="1936.6.10.23" ( YYYY.M.D.H ). Change the time to 10 or something else.. not near end/start of a day. Then save it and load the savegame.

Reason: I had a such a savegame and after un-pausing, it had to calculate a day-change. It was crashing every single time. As I changed the time.. it didn't crashed. But this worked just 2 or 3 times for me so far.

C) If the ingame day of your savegame is at the first or last 1-2 days of a month.. and it's crashing after un-pausing it. Do the same as with B) and change the day. You could even try to set it to the next day around 10-12 hours.

Reason: Same as above. The game has to calculate a lot at the end of a day and at the end of a month.. and it also looks that there is a lot to do at the beginning.

D) If your savegame/s crash.. try to set the ingame speed to slowest before un-pausing it. This is not often helpful.. but 1 or 2 times it helped me.

Reason: Not sure about it. My best interpretion is that if you play and play and play.. without loading savegames.. then the game is somehow in a "flow". But if you load a savegame you throw your game into all the actions which it has to perform from scratch. This could be the reason why my early savegames never crash. Only those with tons of units and orders.

E) Historical events. Many events are broken or popup at a very wrong time or very to late. I think this caused some of my CTDs at day-change. And it would explain why the broken savegame runs fine if I edit it to +1 day and 10/12 hours.

[**] Settings and Savegame

Go to C:\Users\*username*\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Hearts of Iron IV

There you will find a settings.txt

Change save_as_binary=yes to =no. So the game will save your savegames in plain text and you can edit them with text-editors ( try Notepad++ / Notepad2 ).

Saving and loading a crashing savegame still works as of 2023, you are a literal lifesaver <3

[Abstract-Player]

Originally posted by Drod™:

Saving and loading a crashing savegame still works as of 2023, you are a literal lifesaver <3

Haha.. glad to hear that.. even 6+ years after posting it !