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Sar Meister Jul 6, 2022 @ 10:16am
How to form Kurdistan?
Tried googling and just kept getting a lot of talks about the Kurd Achievement and not anything on how to form the damn nation.

Can anyone please help me?
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Mikey Jul 6, 2022 @ 10:57am 
1. Start as Turkey and do any of the expansionist trails, Ottomans are cool
2. Conquer Iraq and Iran
3. Annex who ever controls Syria
4. Release Kurdistan as player controlled
5. Profit
Nugget Jul 6, 2022 @ 11:01am 
To form the country you need to release it while controlling its core territory which is divided between Turkey, Iraq, and Iran. To get the Kurd Achievement, you need to be playing as Kurdistan with all its core territories (conquer Turkey, Iraq, and Iran, and then release it while ticking the 'play as' button).

Note that as Turkey, with the BftB DLC, you can't release Kurdistan right away so that might be an issue. Don't think Iran or Iraq has the same issue so that's an option (picking either country, going Fascist, annexing the other two then release Kurdistan).
Sar Meister Jul 6, 2022 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Mikey:
1. Start as Turkey and do any of the expansionist trails, Ottomans are cool
2. Conquer Iraq and Iran
3. Annex who ever controls Syria
4. Release Kurdistan as player controlled
5. Profit
Turkey isn't allowed to release Kurdistan... I literally tried

Originally posted by Gibus Man:
To form the country you need to release it while controlling its core territory which is divided between Turkey, Iraq, and Iran. To get the Kurd Achievement, you need to be playing as Kurdistan with all its core territories (conquer Turkey, Iraq, and Iran, and then release it while ticking the 'play as' button).

Note that as Turkey, with the BftB DLC, you can't release Kurdistan right away so that might be an issue. Don't think Iran or Iraq has the same issue so that's an option (picking either country, going Fascist, annexing the other two then release Kurdistan).

Thing is though that Turkey begins with a majority of the Kurdistan lands, and they start with an army. I know there's a event that causes them to come about, but I've literally gotten that event by complete accident everytime and don't know how to get it purposefully.
Snizzlet Jul 6, 2022 @ 11:27am 
Originally posted by Mikey:
1. Start as Turkey
No, Turkey is explicitly prohibited from releasing Kurdistan.

Originally posted by Gibus Man:
To form the country you need to release it while controlling its core territory which is divided between Turkey, Iraq, and Iran.
And Syria (owned by France at game start).

Originally posted by Gibus Man:
Note that as Turkey, with the BftB DLC, you can't release Kurdistan right away so that might be an issue. Don't think Iran or Iraq has the same issue so that's an option (picking either country, going Fascist, annexing the other two then release Kurdistan).
IIRC Iraq and Iran are also prohibited from releasing Kurdistan. (outdated information. The answer is: it depends). Of the nations that start with Kurdistan cores, only France is allowed to release them. Of course if you conquer all 8 states (and get them in the peace deal(s)) as anyone other than the 3 aforementioned nations, you can also release them.
Last edited by Snizzlet; Jul 6, 2022 @ 11:49am
Mikey Jul 6, 2022 @ 11:37am 
Really? Pretty sure I did it as Turkey

In any case substitute Turkey with France, go fascist and join with Hitler so he doesn't screw you over. Conquer and annex Iraq, Iran and Turkey then release Kurdistan as player controlled

Another posibility is going Greek and forming the Purple menace
Last edited by Mikey; Jul 6, 2022 @ 11:40am
Snizzlet Jul 6, 2022 @ 11:39am 
Originally posted by Snizzlet:
IIRC Iraq and Iran are also prohibited from releasing Kurdistan. Of the nations that start with Kurdistan cores, only France is allowed to release them.
Disregard, I was wrong, Iraq and Iran both can (at least in 1.10 without BFTB). The wiki lied lol
Only partially, apparently it depends if you have BFTB actived or not. With BFTB on, neither Turkey, Iraq nor Iran can release Kurdistan. So the wiki is correct, it just assumes you play with all DLC.
And just for the sake of completeness, Turkey can release Kurdistan in 1.10 without BFTB. So it is treated the same as Iraq and Iran in that regard.
Last edited by Snizzlet; Jul 6, 2022 @ 11:47am
Sar Meister Jul 6, 2022 @ 12:12pm 
I've got all DLC's (currently) and trying for the achievement while giving myself a challenge.

France's Kurdistan is pretty weak, having to rely entirely on the generic focus tree for Civi and Mil industry. I literally have no starting resources and am using most of my Civi to get resources to build up my army, my starting manpower isn't even enough for 1 division, so I'm having to build up slowly.
Snizzlet Jul 6, 2022 @ 12:20pm 
Don't try to do it as Kurdistan. Do it while you're still France. Get all 8 cores, then release/play as.
Sar Meister Jul 6, 2022 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Snizzlet:
Don't try to do it as Kurdistan. Do it while you're still France. Get all 8 cores, then release/play as.
Does the achievement still work?
Snizzlet Jul 6, 2022 @ 1:08pm 
Yes, that's how I got it (along with Die Perfidious Albion)
https://imgur.com/a/mLQQMEF
bubbas Jul 6, 2022 @ 1:08pm 
@OP, you can do that achievement as any country except Iran, Iraq & Turkey (since they cannot release Kurdistan). The following is from the wiki:

"If one has Man the Guns, an easy way to do this is as the United Kingdom if you go down the King's Party path - reclaim the Dominions (declare war manually as opposed to staging the uprisings), and while at war with the Commonwealth, take Reclaim the Jewel in the Crown, and use the war goals you get to declare on India and Burma - this will get them to join the Commonwealth, and lets you annex them in the peace deal if you take a tile from them while at war (whereas if you attacked them while not at war with anyone else, you'd have to capitulate them the normal way). If Pakistan has white peace'd with India but hasn't gone to war with Bangladesh, declare war on them afterwards - they'll have significantly less troops (if Bangladesh has spawned, leave it and Pakistan alone until they white peace, and focus on taking out the US and France; after Bangladesh and Pakistan WP, Bangladesh will disband their entire army). In the meantime, France and Czechoslovakia will have gone to war with Germany over Sudetenland. Take Unite the Anglosphere, train up your army to 96 divisions and station them on the Canadian-American border, and also train 20 cavalry units - stage 5 naval invasions of 2 cavalry units into France, and 10 cavalry units onto the Canadian-Alaskan Border. Declare war on the US, which will either result in France inviting the US and Philippines into the Little Entente (if France has formed that faction) or the US will form the North American Entente with the Philippines, and France (as well as Czechoslovakia) will join, resulting in you being at war with France, and Germany inviting you to the Axis (which you should accept). Launch the naval invasions and Rush the French victory points, and push through the United States - as France will still have Disjointed Government, they'll capitulate after taking Paris and a few others. During the peace deal, take the American States as well as the French-held Kurdish State - the Axis will mostly focus on African and European lands, and will only take land elsewhere if nothing else is left. Afterwards, conquer Iraq the normal way, and go down to "Expose the Belly of the Bear" - either Iran will agree to become a puppet (in which case, get to work on annexing them) or use the war goal you get from them refusing to conquer them, taking the one Kurdish state in the peace deal (if you don't have TfV, just annex them normally). Then, justify and declare on Turkey - by this point, Turkey will only be guaranteed by you and Germany if historical is turned on, and as you are both faction members, the Germans won't answer their call to arms (do not answer any German call to arms against the Soviet Union until after Turkey is defeated). After capitulating Turkey, take the 4 Kurdish states they hold in the peace deal, and then release Kurdistan.
If one has La Resistance, they can easily achieve this as France, by doing revive the National Block and Utilize The Leagues, then rushing Freedom Front you can easily switch to Fascism, after that justify on Iraq and Iran so that you go to war with both at the same time, after annexing them you just have to wait for Germany to attack Poland and Romania to do Appoint Pro Axis Government so that Turkey doesn't have any guarantees and you can simply justify on them annex them and release and play as Kurdistan."
Sar Meister Jul 6, 2022 @ 2:48pm 
So I got Kurdistan to break away but I didn't get the option to become them...
bubbas Jul 6, 2022 @ 2:52pm 
They shouldn't 'break away', you should 'release and play as' when releasing them.
Sar Meister Jul 6, 2022 @ 3:14pm 
Originally posted by bubbas:
They shouldn't 'break away', you should 'release and play as' when releasing them.
You can't do that with Turkey, Iran or Iraq. They do not allow for you to release Kurdistan with the DLC

The only country that can is France, but they start out with 0 industry, 0 Building slots, 0 Divisions, and 8k manpower that grows at a trickle, even when going down the Facist's path it's barely growing as the area starts 300k+ people.
bubbas Jul 6, 2022 @ 3:21pm 
Originally posted by bubbas:
@OP, you can do that achievement as any country except Iran, Iraq & Turkey (since they cannot release Kurdistan)...

Originally posted by Sar Meister:
You can't do that with Turkey, Iran or Iraq. They do not allow for you to release Kurdistan with the DLC...
You don't have to tell me what I already told you three posts before.
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