honest question, who would win in a brawl stalin or hitler,

[draftsman]

lets be real here if stalin and hitler were pit against eachother and forced to brawl who would win.

[Chozer]

Publicado originalmente por Mack:

They're close enough in height & bodyweight that there's no particular advantage there.

Hitler had WW1 service but that wouldn't necessarily help and as far as I know he was never directly involved in street fighting. Stalin got into loads of fights at school and was more directly involved in fighting in the early 1900's

Stalin suffered a left long injury in his left arm and was 11 years older. Hitler was a neurotic art nerd psychopath with a bundle of health issues and was a vegetarian. If they fought in 1945 Stalin would have been 66 and Hitler 56.

My money would be on Stalin with more direct experience of fighting.

lets be honest. hirohito woulda rolled them all over with his judo no cap

[Gasseldine]

Publicado originalmente por Chozer:

but could anyone here win over hindenburg that man was a big big man

Asking the real questions here. Personally I'd pay for the Ludendorff v Brusilov fight.

[Fyrliel]

Publicado originalmente por Chozer:

but could anyone here win over hindenburg that man was a big big man

Hindenburg was a Prussian Giant nearly seven feet tall, he had been a soldier his entire life since he was 11 and fought in every war Germany engaged in until World War II starting with the Austro Prussian war. He said he doesn’t care if he dies because dying in battle is the most honorable and noble death possible, he survived a headshot after the bullet shattered on his forehead then continued to command his troops. His commanding skills out match Stalin and Hitler combined. In general I doubt 5 Stalins and Hitlers could beat him.

[Fyrliel]

Publicado originalmente por jusjokez:

lets be real here if stalin and hitler were pit against eachother and forced to brawl who would win.

Stalin was constantly in fights during his early years and became a bandit before the revolution taking parts in dozens of robbery’s and escaped prison almost a dozen times. Hitler was homeless until the war where he fought in very dangerous battles and nearly died several times but also missed out on the chaotic interwar fighting and had become fatter in prison so I would probably give it to Stalin by about 6/10.

[Entstehung]

I'd say Hitler based on height and weight. Stalin was short and that matters a lot in combat sports. There are good reasons why there are certain weight classes (and the higher the weight class the higher the average height). You don't often see 5'4 flyweights fighting 5'8 featherweights.

Admittedly, I am making a lot of assumptions because we don't know the exact height or weight of either man. But, we do know Stalin was shorter, so for Stalin to win he'd need to outsize Hitler to a degree or have more actual training. It'll be hard to measure that last part because you have those claiming Hitler has more military service but Stalin has been in more fights, allegedly.

Also, another problem is that you have to determine their primes. Stalin and Hitler both had physical injures (and arguably psychological) at some point. Youth matters a lot too, so that's something you'd have to consider.

[Chozer]

Publicado originalmente por Franz die Sturmtroopen:

Publicado originalmente por Chozer:

but could anyone here win over hindenburg that man was a big big man

Hindenburg was a Prussian Giant nearly seven feet tall, he had been a soldier his entire life since he was 11 and fought in every war Germany engaged in until World War II starting with the Austro Prussian war. He said he doesn’t care if he dies because dying in battle is the most honorable and noble death possible, he survived a headshot after the bullet shattered on his forehead then continued to command his troops. His commanding skills out match Stalin and Hitler combined. In general I doubt 5 Stalins and Hitlers could beat him.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thats pretty insane

[captain403]

Publicado originalmente por Gamer Maid:

I don't even think that Hitler got a physical confrontation with anyone of his own life, He's just a little kitten in comparison. If I would have a lot of money, I would bet 100% of it on Stalin for sure !

This is incorrect. In fact this enraged his father, who punished him severely.

[widukind]

I think you are looking at the issue with naive eyes. It does not matter who the better fighter is. It matters who decides who the winner is. The referee or somebody similar. In the real world this would be the western powers and their propaganda press. How would they decide? I guess you would need to ask the bookies. If the big money was on Stalin, then Stalin would win and Hitler would get the push. In the end it played out that way, on the battle field.

[Mr_Faorry]

Publicado originalmente por Mikey:

Publicado originalmente por Lord Scrote:

Hitler would win 100% because Stalin would NEVER accept the fight due to paranoia.

No, Stalin would win exactly because of paranoia forcing him to bring a hand grenade into the ring.

Hitler has that crackhead strength though, that stuff lets him shrug off a grenade like it's nothing.

[Fyrliel]

Publicado originalmente por Mr_Faorry:

Publicado originalmente por Mikey:

No, Stalin would win exactly because of paranoia forcing him to bring a hand grenade into the ring.

Hitler has that crackhead strength though, that stuff lets him shrug off a grenade like it's nothing.

No its not crack! its meth get your drugs correct! Everyone knows Hitler bought from Walter White.

[widukind]

Everyone? I don't. Enlighten me please.

[taffmasterlang]

Publicado originalmente por widukind:

Everyone? I don't. Enlighten me please.

The German blitzkrieg through Poland and France was fuelled by Methamphetamine, they issued it in pill form to their troops to boost their stamina and keep them alert for days on end without proper rest, but stopped when the health problems that accompany meth abuse started to surface.

[MAG]

Publicado originalmente por Gamer Maid:

Stalin and that won't even be a challenge for him. Stalin got beatten since he's a kid by his own father or just because he was reading Victor Hugo which was forbidden by one of his teacher. He escaped from prison multiple times and robbed banks etc ...

I don't even think that Hitler got a physical confrontation with anyone of his own life, He's just a little kitten in comparison. If I would have a lot of money, I would bet 100% of it on Stalin for sure !

Not one physical confrontation yet he was in World War 1

[taffmasterlang]

Publicado originalmente por Magscorch:

Publicado originalmente por Gamer Maid:

Stalin and that won't even be a challenge for him. Stalin got beatten since he's a kid by his own father or just because he was reading Victor Hugo which was forbidden by one of his teacher. He escaped from prison multiple times and robbed banks etc ...

I don't even think that Hitler got a physical confrontation with anyone of his own life, He's just a little kitten in comparison. If I would have a lot of money, I would bet 100% of it on Stalin for sure !

Not one physical confrontation yet he was in World War 1

Hitlers war record needs to be taken with a pinch of salt as Nazi propaganda embellished it a bit to make him seem more heroic, IIRC he apparently actually spent a lot of his time as an HQ runner rather than at the front, and the gas attack that invalided him out of army probably left him with some permanent lung damage

[Fyrliel]

Publicado originalmente por taffmasterlang:

Publicado originalmente por Magscorch:

Not one physical confrontation yet he was in World War 1

Hitlers war record needs to be taken with a pinch of salt as Nazi propaganda embellished it a bit to make him seem more heroic, IIRC he apparently actually spent a lot of his time as an HQ runner rather than at the front, and the gas attack that invalided him out of army probably left him with some permanent lung damage

We do know he was on the front because he received several injuries that could have killed him if he wasn’t lucky, the worst injury being the likely sterilization from an artillery shell.