Why is there so much hate about this game now?

[Jordan1920204]

Suddenly, there is a lot of hate about this game now, like as if the TF2 community merged with this game's community. Most of the hate comes from the new supply system almost 6 months after No Step Back's release. Like is it that hard to just look up a guide to the new system?
Or has there always been this much hate towards it and I am just interrupting you right at your daily routine

[IPWIW]

i can use and take advantage of the supply system
still hate it

[Xpain]

I loved the game, but I think that too many DLCs are killing it, too much money to have the "Full" game, Some times those DLCs add features that should be in the basic game. I found that the basic game with some mods is more enjoyably for me. There are too many games, that don't feel like a money grasp.

[SVaughan]

Originally posted by Wario is very happy to see you:

Suddenly, there is a lot of hate about this game now, like as if the TF2 community merged with this game's community. Most of the hate comes from the new supply system almost 6 months after No Step Back's release. Like is it that hard to just look up a guide to the new system?
Or has there always been this much hate towards it and I am just interrupting you right at your daily routine

A playerbase that does not complain about a game is a terrible playerbase. Just let people complain. Trust me. It's healthy for them.

[drewbstar]

No Step Back greatly changed land combat, the main focus of the game. Everything from the supply system, to tank design, to even combat width all changed.
For many people, they didn't like this for a number of reasons.

In addition, it's another DLC on a game with a triple digit price tag. I've never bought any part of HOI4 full price, because I honestly don't think they're worth full price. In addition, many of the complaints are derived from the fact the game still has many issues which haven't been dealt with, ranging from Italy's focus tree, to AI behavior, to end game lag. (If the game ran faster you could literally shave hundreds of hours off my playtime.)

[The Tomekeeper]

imo it's because most of the audience are the kinda orange fingered angry computer user borderline fashy imageboard visiter types of person and they don't have the patience to learn how to do something just a little bit more fiddly.

its also why they're single

[The Tomekeeper]

Originally posted by Xpain:

I loved the game, but I think that too many DLCs are killing it, too much money to have the "Full" game, Some times those DLCs add features that should be in the basic game. I found that the basic game game with some mods is more enjoyably for me. There are too many games, that don't feel like a money grasp.

you mean like how they did with NSB anyway..?

[Cheekyhalfling]

The game mostly feels like a chore rather than fun, my biggest issue with the updates.

[Retired]

Originally posted by Chuck Bartowski:

The game mostly feels like a chore rather than fun, my biggest issue with the updates.

Pretty much how I feel. My peak of fun with this game was Waking the tiger dlc. Mtg was when it started feeling like a chore.

[marijn211]

Its just another mechanic the AI can't seem to manage also I don't think it helps with performance

[JustoInjusto]

I love the supply system. Very well designed.

[SVaughan]

Originally posted by santisav:

I love the supply system. Very well designed.

I tried it. Don't really care for it. I'll remain happy rolled back to a version before NSB.

[cyndndra]

Unfortunately, It comes down to: Be careful what you ask for.

There were many complaints on Steam & on the PDX forums about how the original supply system worked, PDX heard and changed the system in NSB. I believe that the supply system is "closer" to reality, but it is still a major simplification. And it still has some serious anomalies.

The same is sort of the case with the Tank designer. When that came out with MTG, players started asking for a Tank Designer, and now an Airplane Designer.

[AlexMBrennan]

Like is it that hard to just look up a guide to the new system?

The problem is not that I don't know how the supply system works but that the way it works is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stupid. For example, the "upgrade railways" buttons when you click on supply depots doesn't work half the time so you need to manually click on every piece of the railway which is incredibly ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ obnoxious (I think it's when the supply depot is in allied territory so I guess only solo world conquests are allowed now)

Unfortunately, It comes down to: Be careful what you ask for.

If the developer had a vision for their grand strategy game they would refuse to keep adding stupid random minigames.

[Big [REDACTED] Marty]

Originally posted by warp spider:

imo it's because most of the audience are the kinda orange fingered angry computer user borderline fashy imageboard visiter types of person and they don't have the patience to learn how to do something just a little bit more fiddly.

its also why they're single

yike

[Jordan1920204]

Originally posted by SVaughan:

Originally posted by Wario is very happy to see you:

Suddenly, there is a lot of hate about this game now, like as if the TF2 community merged with this game's community. Most of the hate comes from the new supply system almost 6 months after No Step Back's release. Like is it that hard to just look up a guide to the new system?
Or has there always been this much hate towards it and I am just interrupting you right at your daily routine

A playerbase that does not complain about a game is a terrible playerbase. Just let people complain. Trust me. It's healthy for them.

But they so toxic though and they don't complain like as if it is a big issue, no instead it always sounds like they're too dumb to learn the most simple things. It bothers me because I love this game and because there is no good alternativ.