Hearts of Iron IV

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Man-Man Apr 12, 2022 @ 6:29pm
How to get air superiority?
i have over 700 hours in this game and i still dont get how to always get air superiority
does somebody got advice?
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drewbstar Apr 12, 2022 @ 7:04pm 
Use more fighters, better fighters, with aces, with better doctrine and keep your %s up. (Detection, efficiency, etc.)

Normal fighters are the best at winning dogfights, but heavy fighters get a 1.25x bonus to air sup calculations. They also have better range, which helps if you're fighting outside of Europe.

IIRC, Strategic Destruction is the best doctrine for sheer air control. (IMHO, BS is better but that's because CAS wins battles, period. SD is good for making strat bombing worthwhile, if you target airports you can win by simply preventing them from launching fighters.)

Aces help, try to generate as many as you can.

RADAR is important for air detection, which will help you find their planes and shoot them down. Upgrade and expand your RADAR stations so you get good coverage.

Upgrade your fighters. Agility and weapons first, IIRC in that order. If you're shooting down more than you lose and more than they can replace, eventually you'll win.

Once they're in a strong enough deficit, you can abuse your position. Strat bomb their factories, push in uncontested areas, split your (superior) airforce so that they can't cover everything.

If you're fighting an island (Japan/UK), you can try cutting off their oil supply to reduce their air power as well. Can't fly planes without fuel, can't defend their waters without fuel, allowing you to snowball the damage.
parser Apr 12, 2022 @ 11:52pm 
If your divisions have a lot of air defense, for example, infantry has 3-4 air defense battalions, then the enemy will have practically no superiority
mk11 Apr 13, 2022 @ 2:13am 
Originally posted by Gondwanec:
If your divisions have a lot of air defense, for example, infantry has 3-4 air defense battalions, then the enemy will have practically no superiority

No.

Your air defence does nothing to counter the boost the enemies get to their attack from air superiority.

It may completely neutralise the defensive and movement disadvantages you have, and slaughter the enemy bombers, so is still worth doing.
ancientjoke Apr 13, 2022 @ 2:34am 
you get huge bonuses depending on the air force over a certain region the battle is taking place. The bonuses you get is like 25% as well as debuffs for your enemy if u hold the air superiority. :steamthumbsup:
mehman6000 Apr 13, 2022 @ 3:00am 
Spam out fighters but I don't really think air supremacy is more important than a lot of CAS (unless you are doing paratroopers)
TasteDasRainbow Apr 13, 2022 @ 10:20am 
A big factor many people have overlooked after NSB as well is because supply routing is FUBAR, you can often end up without supply/fuel for airbases in friendly territory because the supply system finds it optimal (haha) to route your supply the longest way possible through sea routes if possible, despite active and available rail lines that can more than handle the necessary throughput.

So for instance I attempted to base some 400 planes in north western italy as germany, which by all respects has full supply and capital rail connection, however the game decides I need to ship to rome and then through the Mediterranean to alpine ports instead, leaving my air with a -95% supply malus.
parser Apr 13, 2022 @ 10:33am 
In the latest update cas made stronger. It seems like because of this, players for the USSR now cant do without fighters. I haven't looked at the changes in detail, but in any case, more air defense negates air superiority, at least from fighters.
Man-Man Apr 13, 2022 @ 11:03am 
thanks for that information.

But can you explain how i get naval supremacy?
i just usually spam naval bomber
parser Apr 13, 2022 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by Inderland:
thanks for that information.

But can you explain how i get naval supremacy?
i just usually spam naval bomber
You have the wiki and the game code. You will hardly find a complete guide about any mechanics, at least air combat. Air superiority works the same way and depends on the weather. The game is completely broken.
drewbstar Apr 13, 2022 @ 12:09pm 
Originally posted by Inderland:
thanks for that information.

But can you explain how i get naval supremacy?
i just usually spam naval bomber
The easiest way is to spam subs and CLs. Subs to kill enemy convoys/fleets, CLs to scout and protect your zones.
Klutch Apr 13, 2022 @ 12:11pm 
If you have enough AA the enemy wont even launch its fighters.
Mihai Heart Attack Apr 13, 2022 @ 12:50pm 
Build good fighters pretty much, cas is pretty op so do that too. If u can spare a research slot rush fighters and cas and boost agility and air attack on fighters, don't forget to bump reliability too. For doctrines it's whatever, I usually go for battlefield support for that cas agility which means they won't go down as easily. Oh, almost forgot. Always get a designer for your fighters, more agility and reliability spares you air xp when you upgrade the fighters.
Man-Man Apr 13, 2022 @ 6:00pm 
thanks again for the inofrmation

but can you also explain how i can make my game perform better

it runs 30 und suddenly drops down to like 5 fps

cpu : ryzen 5 3600
ram: 16gb
gpu: gtx 1060 6gb
HunterFromAbove Apr 14, 2022 @ 10:42am 
Originally posted by drewbstar:
Use more fighters, better fighters, with aces, with better doctrine and keep your %s up. (Detection, efficiency, etc.)

Normal fighters are the best at winning dogfights, but heavy fighters get a 1.25x bonus to air sup calculations. They also have better range, which helps if you're fighting outside of Europe.

IIRC, Strategic Destruction is the best doctrine for sheer air control. (IMHO, BS is better but that's because CAS wins battles, period. SD is good for making strat bombing worthwhile, if you target airports you can win by simply preventing them from launching fighters.)

Aces help, try to generate as many as you can.

RADAR is important for air detection, which will help you find their planes and shoot them down. Upgrade and expand your RADAR stations so you get good coverage.

Upgrade your fighters. Agility and weapons first, IIRC in that order. If you're shooting down more than you lose and more than they can replace, eventually you'll win.

Once they're in a strong enough deficit, you can abuse your position. Strat bomb their factories, push in uncontested areas, split your (superior) airforce so that they can't cover everything.

If you're fighting an island (Japan/UK), you can try cutting off their oil supply to reduce their air power as well. Can't fly planes without fuel, can't defend their waters without fuel, allowing you to snowball the damage.
What about operational integrity? I've heard somewhere that thats the best air doc for sheer air superiority, while strategic destruction comes second.
Daonar Apr 14, 2022 @ 11:14am 
It's bugged, so stop trying.

Once I had 4500 upgraded tier 2 jet fighters vs. 500ish tier 3 regular fighters...with only 40-50% "superiority"
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