German coup: how to?

[azure_wolf_22]

Learned the hard way: First focus being opposing hitler+game over already. Riech simply has too many units

Whats the step-by-step process to make this a simplke matter?

[Surimi]

You can make it a bit easier by conquering another country via fabricated wargoal before picking the oppose hitler focus.

Step by step is going to be difficult, because it's a very evenly matched war and lots can go wrong. But I'll try.

When the civil war breaks out, you will get 24 militia divisions. They're poor quality and good for nothing but defence, so you'll want to mix them in with the rest of your infantry. Split all your infantry in half and divide the frontline equally between them. For now, tanks and motorised infantry are mobile reserves so keep them on a fallback line somewhere.

Split your planes into two groups and try to cover the entire front with air support. You want at least yellow in both air zones. If you let the Nazis dominate the air war in either half of the front, they will be able to push you back.

You will probably get attacked and there's a good chance you might even lose some ground. Don't necessarily worry about this, just use manual movements to consolidate dangerous areas and if needs be send in your reserves to reinforce it. If there is a full-on breach in the line, you should try to cut it off and hopefully trap some divisions behind the lines.

After a while, your miliia units will be a bit more experienced and you won't feel so vulenrable. At this point, pull off as many of your best and most experienced divisions as you feel each army can spare and make a whole new army group under a new field marshall. Create a short frontline in the middle of the country and an attack order going straight for the Czech border. Move all your CAS to cover this attack.

Once all divisions are in position and have full planning, attack and try to push all the way to the Czech border.

If you've made it, congratulations, you've pretty much won. Bavaria will basically be a giant pocket now. Focus on closing it, and then you can bring your whole army together for the final push on Berlin.

[Pablo]

Use militia to push south and use good divisions to push north. And try to divide the Wehrmacht in two by pushing all the way through the middle to the Czech border. Hold the southern front and clean em up when you take Berlin.

Won all my German civil war using this method.

[Vharzul]

- Dont build any additional Devisions, if you do to even odds with Armor and Moutian Devision then only 1 more Pnz. & Moutian Dev. & Convert the one Cavalry Unit to Moterised. That way you end up with 2 Pnz & Mot. Devision which will be split evently both sides.

-Stock up on Inf. Equip, and other stuff like Planes, Tanks, etc although highest Prio with Factory's being Inf. Equip, Support Equip. & Artillery, around 2-3 MIL Fac's into L-Tanks, Mot. Rest evently into Fighters, CAS, TacBombers.

- Construct a few Military-Civ Factor's only in West Germany which dont go to Nazi side, you should remember where the battle line is and only build in your given provinces. (This only realy applies if you dont take the Opose Hitler Focus First, and go for Industrial Build up for the first 4-5 Focuses)

- Save up your PP for changing Conscription law to Extensive when War breaks out (important as you get alot of Manpower of Time this way, and can't change until much later when facing off alot of Apponents in a War, hence take straight away then)

As for making a Wargoal Justification against a nation if you so desire. (note if you take the country and AI takes this into account it will factor into whether France & Britian challange Kaiser comeback or not and its very likely they will challange then, this is a very tricky thing to pull of without them intervening if you had taken a nation before you can pick the focus and have it completed before Wargoal Justification is done if 240+ Day's for wargoal is done and your ready to DoW straight away before you click on event that Kaiser is back)

- Would recommend doing Industrial focuses minimum of 4 Focuses the realy important ones like 4 Year Plan, Autarky, then probably take the 2 Civilian Fac. Focuses, then go Apose Hitler.
Why? because you get alot of time to build additions Factory's like military and Civilian in West Germany plus the random ones from Focus, also your Stockpiles will be good and Tech, also you will have alot more PP to spend on Advisors, Staff etc.

- When Civil War Starts keep paused and Build emidiatly New Devisions, ergo around 6-12 Inf. Devisions and maybe 1-2 Tank/Mot. Devisions and as soon as they are rdy deploy them to your Generals Front. this will help out alot in the Long/short time eitherway. (Italy will help Facist Germany so this helps.)

- Aim to keep stable lines, make use of Gaps and pinning enemy for a short period to exploit the Gaps and surround thier Troops or Cut them off from thier supplie.

- Aim for Cze border Point between Bavaria and Nortth in the middle to Cut both apart, push North along the Coast along and down and from South of Cze up along thier boarder to Berlin.

- Bavaria area can have less troops thier to fight thier remaining pocketet/cutoff Devisions and once gone, your troops from thier upwards.

- Make sure you use your Airforce that you have good, have them get Supiority in the Air, CAS & TacBombers either karge region Devision attacking or assigned to a specific General for more concentrated support to your Ground Devisions.

- Navy wise, if you taken the longer route then build only Destroyers, and Convoy's, like 2-3 Docks in Convoy and most into Destroyers and once fleet gets split you can fight a nice Navel War to get XP thier ;-) (Dont forget to use the Torpedo Planes to help your Navy in the Batlic Sea.

[Portal]

Split your army up to 3 Fronts. 8 Militias + 1 Inf for Bavaria. 10 Inf and all fast divisions for the zentral front near Frankfurt-> blitzkrieg to czechoslovakia.
Use all remaining militias and 2-3 Inf to hold the north, may be a fighting retreat.
Clear up Bavaria and going for Berlin will be easy.

[azure_wolf_22]

Originally posted by Portal:

Split your army up to 3 Fronts. 8 Militias + 1 Inf for Bavaria. 10 Inf and all fast divisions for the zentral front near Frankfurt-> blitzkrieg to czechoslovakia.
Use all remaining militias and 2-3 Inf to hold the north, may be a fighting retreat.
Clear up Bavaria and going for Berlin will be easy.

Gonna guess deleting the entire army before focus completes doesnt work?

[roirraw]

Just drag over your entire starting force at the game start, garrison them on ONE province near the middle of where the civil war would start. When the event pops up, just pause it and start. Select the units all into one group and hit S, put that stack into a 2nd group, take both stacks and make a field marshal with 2 high leaders and set the front. If you put one arrow of attack into the armpit area near poland and solvakia, you break the war into 2 pretty quickly. Just hit the attack button instantly and keep the aggression high. With your factories making equipment only and no new units, you don't lose units. When the line splits in 2, just make a 2nd attack line in the south and hit attack again. This makes the 2nd line push without breaking the orders of the north. After the south goes down, just reset the entire line in the north and gg.

If you use planes, it helps, but save your ships for after the war.

[azure_wolf_22]

Originally posted by roirraw:

Just drag over your entire starting force at the game start, garrison them on ONE province near the middle of where the civil war would start. When the event pops up, just pause it and start. Select the units all into one group and hit S, put that stack into a 2nd group, take both stacks and make a field marshal with 2 high leaders and set the front. If you put one arrow of attack into the armpit area near poland and solvakia, you break the war into 2 pretty quickly. Just hit the attack button instantly and keep the aggression high. With your factories making equipment only and no new units, you don't lose units. When the line splits in 2, just make a 2nd attack line in the south and hit attack again. This makes the 2nd line push without breaking the orders of the north. After the south goes down, just reset the entire line in the north and gg.

If you use planes, it helps, but save your ships for after the war.

thx

[Vharzul]

oh forgot to mention draw a fallback line via your Marshel along the entire border, bordering the thier border, that way you can draw a battlefront quickly and your Armies are faster in place as already parcialy rdy along thier border and close, and then you can begin short planning bonus or start to attack straight away without allowing them to get a short resbite...

[BetterBite]

I got the dlc when it first came out and instantly tried the civil war to see how hard it is as people say it is.
Went for the focus straight away.
Ez. It was for me.
What is most important is a push along the middle and encircling Bavaria

[azure_wolf_22]

Originally posted by Comrade BetterBite:

I got the dlc when it first came out and instantly tried the civil war to see how hard it is as people say it is.
Went for the focus straight away.
Ez. It was for me.
What is most important is a push along the middle and encircling Bavaria

I tried pushing straight for berlin...not smart?

[Vharzul]

You can try, if thier are enough gaps etc, but you will more then likely get stalled, hence why its always better to try and go around them top and bottom and pin units of thiers in place whilst you are going around, makes things alot easier..

[Viksteri]

just split the German reichs troops by pushing into Chec border this way u will make many divisons suffer attrion and than u can easily kill them. AT least thats what I always do when I go for opposing Hitler focus