Japan is the WORST COUNTRY in hoi4

[SGT Spack 7]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2659044463
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2659044565

i'm going to officially award japan the most hated country award in hoi 4 and the devs the most lazy ass coding award. take a look at those screen shots and the state japan is in and just ask why.
for the record china died in 37 me as my warlords bro's took his lunch money.
the axis is getting clapped from the soviets and the allies in an early war they started with EVERYONE why is this still a thing devs
imperial japan joined commies cause hoi4, democratic japan joined axis and even when they dont even own half thier country they keep declaring war on people even germany isn't that bad and why are they still coded to attack china on EVERY FOCUS path, fix your game devs

looking forward to the next half assed dlc badly copied from mods, feel free to give me your worst iron man glitch stories as i sit here stuck at war for 49 years waiting for a miracle.

[SteahmChip]

Cannot judge everything on one game. Run several games in observer overnight. Japan win some they loose some.
Never seen China get owned by that clicque before though.

[Chief Wiggum]

Many vets love playing Japan as it's a challenge, and lots of ways to play

[Caesar]

that is literally democratic japan-
what more do you expect?

[TheCr33pur]

I wanted to try Japan, but just doesnt feel right and when playing another country, Japan does better than i do lol. Idk if they are cheating, but sometimes the AIs is so dumb and Japan get overrun by the poor Chinese. Note, this is not MP, just Ironman as Normal, Single Player setup with no mod install.

Havent mess with this for more than a year, was told the upcoming patch will make a difference, is that true?

[SGT Spack 7]

引用自 Augustus：

that is literally democratic japan-
what more do you expect?

i can understand fascist japan justifying even though they are in a civil war and in world war 2 they are that stupid. but why is democratic japan? on a non aligned nation that has caused about 3% world tension. its lazy programming they just left them with the fascist japan scripts.

[SGT Spack 7]

引用自 SteahmChip：

Cannot judge everything on one game. Run several games in observer overnight. Japan win some they loose some.
Never seen China get owned by that clicque before though.

I'm the one playing the Clique. if japan go's democratic china will focus the interior and subjugate the warlords. if you get lucky they will all say no nd you get a very fun micro intensive war and can annex china in early 38 best done as Guangxi or Shaanxi

Unfortunately the Japanese will still ruin your day whichever path they take even when they're democratic.

[Scheneighnay]

Don't forget it's basically impossible to do the democratic focus tree without using cheese strats like deleting divisions before the civil war.

Why?
Because as soon as the civil war breaks out, the fascists will join the axis, and you aren't allowed to advance in the focus tree until you win the war by causing Germany to capitulate.

[The Merchant Guild]

引用自 Chief Wiggum：

Many vets love playing Japan as it's a challenge, and lots of ways to play

You're damn right, Japan is all i play now, such a fun nation, has every thing u could want.

-Early war china
-Late war ussr, uk and usa
-Naval combat, Air Combat, Land Combat on the double
-Good use of spies
- Chances to challenge your self with different builds and the fact you always on the possible verge of no supply (if u dont play it super boring and safe)
-An alright focus tree, but some good ass buffs and advancements (2 super heavy battleships, cant go wrong :) )

[Admod, the Equivocal]

If you don't know, Communist china has a specific focus path they go that can make Japan declare war on them.

[Chozer]

引用自 SGT Spack 7：

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2659044463
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2659044565

i'm going to officially award japan the most hated country award in hoi 4 and the devs the most lazy ass coding award. take a look at those screen shots and the state japan is in and just ask why.
for the record china died in 37 me as my warlords bro's took his lunch money.
the axis is getting clapped from the soviets and the allies in an early war they started with EVERYONE why is this still a thing devs
imperial japan joined commies cause hoi4, democratic japan joined axis and even when they dont even own half thier country they keep declaring war on people even germany isn't that bad and why are they still coded to attack china on EVERY FOCUS path, fix your game devs

looking forward to the next half assed dlc badly copied from mods, feel free to give me your worst iron man glitch stories as i sit here stuck at war for 49 years waiting for a miracle.

as a japan main i like the challenge

[Rac Man]

ever play Italy?

[Scheneighnay]

引用自 Rac Man：

ever play Italy?

Italy at least has a halfway-functional focus tree.

Granted any major tree is going to be more functional than most minor trees that all break if things don't go 100% by the book.

[CABAAL]

the problem regarding japan is about the alt history route and it has never been good for most countries: red/dem japan cant win or lose civil war asap resulting in both sides being in absurd factions as op described. Then china will still go down to provoke japan and japan wont retreat from the continent regardless of its status. Alt path problems is also shared by Countries like uk/mexico or those get focus trees from new dlcs(LR and BotB), like uk retreating to homeland but decide to empower the king and mexico and bulgaria will fight 2 civil wars at least. for the civil war problem i think give the outstraight core combat buff like germany (but to ai only as human can read) can shorten the war and make it less chaotic. also fascist japan in civil war wont join axis immediately unless wt is 100% as there is a modifier discouraging civil war participants joining factions.

[Scheneighnay]

引用自 Feelsbadman：

the problem regarding japan is about the alt history route and it has never been good for most countries: red/dem japan cant win or lose civil war asap resulting in both sides being in absurd factions as op described. Then china will still go down to provoke japan and japan wont retreat from the continent regardless of its status. Alt path problems is also shared by Countries like uk/mexico or those get focus trees from new dlcs(LR and BotB), like uk retreating to homeland but decide to empower the king and mexico and bulgaria will fight 2 civil wars at least. for the civil war problem i think give the outstraight core combat buff like germany (but to ai only as human can read) can shorten the war and make it less chaotic. also fascist japan in civil war wont join axis immediately unless wt is 100% as there is a modifier discouraging civil war participants joining factions.

Mexico's focus tree is fine, just the AI makes no attempt to avert any civil wars.

[Delicia Suprema]

引用自 SGT Spack 7：

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2659044463
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2659044565

i'm going to officially award japan the most hated country award in hoi 4 and the devs the most lazy ass coding award. take a look at those screen shots and the state japan is in and just ask why.
for the record china died in 37 me as my warlords bro's took his lunch money.
the axis is getting clapped from the soviets and the allies in an early war they started with EVERYONE why is this still a thing devs
imperial japan joined commies cause hoi4, democratic japan joined axis and even when they dont even own half thier country they keep declaring war on people even germany isn't that bad and why are they still coded to attack china on EVERY FOCUS path, fix your game devs

looking forward to the next half assed dlc badly copied from mods, feel free to give me your worst iron man glitch stories as i sit here stuck at war for 49 years waiting for a miracle.

Japan is literally the easiest and best country ever. Easier than germany. Wtf are you on about ????