how do i break through enemy lines?

[Falke]

Playing usually as germany starting in 1936.
I likely never can break through the frontlines in france and russia, or when i break through , then with enormous efforts.

so the thing is, i play with the cheat mod, i have more tanks, ships, planes and equipment than normal players without that mod, and i still suck at frontline fightings? How you guys break through lines?

[Frodo]

For France go around the magiont, you will have a very hard time breaking through their forts at the line. Just as you finish Danzig or war, pick around the magiot line ( takes 28 days) That gives you wargoals on the Benelux countries.

Take out Netherlands, Belgium and Luxenburg. Then Attack France from the north.

For Russia, use tanks for a spearhead and encicle pockets of their troops.

[Maximus]

use good templates. if you are using cheats, use 7/2s or 14/4s. for tanks make sure they're all 40width with atleast 30 or 40 org. I can elaborate on this incase you dont know what any of that means

[Falke]

Originally posted by Maximus:

use good templates. if you are using cheats, use 7/2s or 14/4s. for tanks make sure they're all 40width with atleast 30 or 40 org. I can elaborate on this incase you dont know what any of that means

Please.
But the Templates for without cheats would be nice too.
I usually go for 20width divisions. Manpower is one of the reasons (i don't cheat manpower)

[Frodo]

I use 7 inf + 2 art for 20 width infantry divisions. with (Support) recon, engineer, anti tank, anti air and field hospital.

6 medium panzer + 4 mot, for panzer ( pretty much the same support unit except AT )

There are probably much better temps, but they work just fine for me with no cheats

[Graf Schokola]

Hallo Falke,

ich habe dir bereits in deinem anderen Post mehrere super Vorlagen geliefert. Habe dich mal in Steam geaddet. Bei deinen 230 Stunden in Hoi4 aber noch immer Schwierigkeiten beim Durchbrechen kannst du mit Sicherheit eine direktere Hilfe als nur hier im Forum gebrauchen. Schreib mich einfach an.

[Maximus]

Originally posted by Falke:

Originally posted by Maximus:

use good templates. if you are using cheats, use 7/2s or 14/4s. for tanks make sure they're all 40width with atleast 30 or 40 org. I can elaborate on this incase you dont know what any of that means

Please.
But the Templates for without cheats would be nice too.
I usually go for 20width divisions. Manpower is one of the reasons (i don't cheat manpower)

7/2 = 7 infantry and 2 artillery battalions. add engineers and artillery as support. this is a good semi expensive unit for pushing.

14/4 same as above but double the infantry and artillery. very expensive if you have armies of them, so they're mostly for late game.

Tanks: try to always use 40 width to get the most out of them. 12 medium with 8 motorized. use engineer, artillery, armored car recon, and signal companies. logistics too.

I like to have a small amount of tank divisions (around 6, depends on your production capaicty). I put them in their own army under my best general and micro them to create encirclements. when you have 40 width heavy tanks, nothing can stop you short of a mountain. Taking out poland with 40width tanks is like melting butter, but it can be hard to have the production by then.

For light tanks you can normally get away with 5 light 5 moto for a decent early game template in low supply areas. there's also 40width light tank+SPG templates but those are niche

[mk11]

Speed, France should never get to form a proper defensive line.

Do you manage your own attacks or have the AI execute a plan? I do the former so can't comment on the second.

To attack USSR. Select good terrain, no rivers either at the front or for a few areas back. Plan an offensive using tanks on three adjacent areas. The centre one having at least two (better three) attack vectors. Get planning bonus, check the weather is good, launch attack on the three areas, use shift-click to at least plan the attacking divisions to move on one more area. Cancel front-line. The side attacks prevent lateral reinforcement and the main attack should breakthrough and rapidly continue the advance overrunning retreating enemies.

Then use speed to expand the breakthrough, overrun, encircle, etc.

[drewbstar]

3 big things as Germany:
40 width tanks. Somewhere between 10/10 and 15/5 (tanks:mobile inf) If you're learning, do what's easiest for you to manage production. Very important that you are making enough tanks, trucks, and related equipment for them.

Air control. You want green air in the zones you attack in. Pump out fighters, upgrade the with air EXP, research your air doctrine. Train your air wings if you have the oil and time pre-war.

Finally, if you have both above, air support. Get some CAS and not only will it buff your troops, it outright deletes the enemy in combat. Click on the little bubbles and look in the top corner and it shows you how much the CAS has deleted from the enemy.
Green air + CAS on 40 width, fully supplied tanks means you can steam roll anything. Just be careful near forts and rivers.

[Chozer]

Originally posted by Falke:

Playing usually as germany starting in 1936.
I likely never can break through the frontlines in france and russia, or when i break through , then with enormous efforts.

so the thing is, i play with the cheat mod, i have more tanks, ships, planes and equipment than normal players without that mod, and i still suck at frontline fightings? How you guys break through lines?

get as much soft damage and CAS air support. also the more armor the better but that's about to change so don't get too much into it

[Falke]

Yeah, i just realised, that the maginot line got 10/10 defence structures.
That explained a freaking lot. Went over the netherlands now instead.

my bad, lol

[Falke]

Originally posted by Moss:

Originally posted by Falke:

Playing usually as germany starting in 1936.
I likely never can break through the frontlines in france and russia, or when i break through , then with enormous efforts.

so the thing is, i play with the cheat mod, i have more tanks, ships, planes and equipment than normal players without that mod, and i still suck at frontline fightings? How you guys break through lines?

get as much soft damage and CAS air support. also the more armor the better but that's about to change so don't get too much into it

How do you mean, that this is about to change? New dlc?

[grg]

Originally posted by Falke:

Originally posted by Moss:

get as much soft damage and CAS air support. also the more armor the better but that's about to change so don't get too much into it

How do you mean, that this is about to change? New dlc?

dlc's revamping the tank designing mechanics

[EmotionallyBroken]

Originally posted by Falke:

Playing usually as germany starting in 1936.
I likely never can break through the frontlines in france and russia, or when i break through , then with enormous efforts.

so the thing is, i play with the cheat mod, i have more tanks, ships, planes and equipment than normal players without that mod, and i still suck at frontline fightings? How you guys break through lines?

Its hard to tell from this information alone.