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TURKEY - Can't get "Pivot to The Past" the ottoman loyalists have been invited to return to active service.
Devs. I am playing as Turkey with the new DLC, my focus tree is complete down to "Looking Outwards", I am trying to select "Pivot to the Past" but it says I need to have the ottoman loyalists have been invited to return to active service. I had the civil war with the Kurds, won, am a democracy but choose republican leadership for the bonus, and now am apparently prohibited from choosing "Pivot to the Past". If this is not broken, than it is wrong.

The instructions to overcome this issue are below, but more importantly this is a clumsy order of events that should NOT be required. Suppose someone steps away for a moment and misses the republican or democrat requirement, their whole game strategy is ruined if the notification goes away and the AI chooses the wrong one.

The Focus Trees should be the end all, and if there is a choice between option A or B, than line them up alongside each other and allow the player an easy interface to choose what they want.

The follow requirement is again clumsy, please fix this by removing the aforementioned requirement and allow players to select the focus tree without having to juggle the following steps.

"Turkey - Going Ottoman

1. Don't counter the fundamentalists.
2. Do the Kurdish-Traditionalist alliance when that pop-ups.
3. The multi-party election focus, when you finish it, pick the democrats, NOT the republicans.
4. Once you do this, the focus tree will change. Instead of "achieving Ataturk's dream" you get a different name, and eventually you get the Turkish civil war focus.
5. During this focus, you can invite the Ottoman loyalists back.

I'm unsure how many of these are absolutely required, but the picking the democrats is definitely absolutely essential.

Hope this helps."
Last edited by SSoviet_Slayer; Feb 1, 2021 @ 6:51am
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Bored Peon Feb 1, 2021 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by SSoviet_Slayer:
I'm unsure how many of these are absolutely required, but the picking the democrats is definitely absolutely essential.
There is something more than just picking Demokrats. I had it fail after choosing them the other day.
SSoviet_Slayer Feb 1, 2021 @ 6:49am 
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
Originally posted by SSoviet_Slayer:
I'm unsure how many of these are absolutely required, but the picking the democrats is definitely absolutely essential.
There is something more than just picking Demokrats. I had it fail after choosing them the other day.

Dev's this is exactly what I'm talking about. This DLC requires you to remove this vague and difficult to replicate order of events, please just allow us to use the focus tree.
Bored Peon Feb 1, 2021 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by SSoviet_Slayer:
Originally posted by Bored Peon:
There is something more than just picking Demokrats. I had it fail after choosing them the other day.

Dev's this is exactly what I'm talking about. This DLC requires you to remove this vague and difficult to replicate order of events, please just allow us to use the focus tree.
Yeah because I did it one game and then the next it failed.

Probably try it again later today I wanna test some stuff with spies and the diplomatic pressure. regarding investing. Basically I want to see if I apply diplomatic pressure if the chance at investing succeeds. Been messing around with that feature with Austria-Hungary and have won the referendum and instant annexed Czecks, and got Romania to give up Transylvania without a fight.
Bored Peon Feb 1, 2021 @ 12:56pm 
I finally got the achievement after a few attempts.
Originally posted by SSoviet_Slayer:
2. Do the Kurdish-Traditionalist alliance when that pop-ups.
I never had that pop up.

Originally posted by SSoviet_Slayer:
4. Once you do this, the focus tree will change. Instead of "achieving Ataturk's dream" you get a different name, and eventually you get the Turkish civil war focus.
I think you have the right idea, but wrong focus. The focus changes to purge the Kemalists (which causes civil war) then the other focus changes to Pivot point?

One word of warning doing this, It seems after you bring the sultan back there is no way to integrate the Kurds anymore. Which I find very disappointing because they have that +25% resistance modifier permanently.

Which gave me a huge manpower drain after the civil war. I had to use MPs, 3 spies, and the focus for resistance suppression because it was up to almost 50%. Gave me a huge manpower drain until I figured out the fidelity and other ability that is basically political power to manpower.

So before going down the tree you might want to pause and finish that first. I also have no idea what happens if you take and more Kurd states afterwards.
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Date Posted: Feb 1, 2021 @ 4:20am
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