Difference between historical and non-historical focus?

[铁剑]

Playing HOI4 with historical focus
Chose to go democratic Germany, then the UK suddenly takes the decolonisation path and all its ex-colonies form a new faction.
France turns communist, but doesn't join Comintern, hasn't joined yet anyway.

How come all this happens while taking the historical focus? What will happen then if non-historical focus is taken?
Is there a real difference between choosing historical and non-historical focus in any game?

Thanks, and wish you all a nice holiday.

[M03RWI]

yes ofcourse historical as name say its historical steps example germany will invade ussr in 1941 and if you play non historical alot of different events could happen i prefer play non historical cause its always different game if you have alot of dlcs a nonhistorical is more fun

[The Carlist Boi]

historical remains historical only if you do hist focuses too. If not, the game tries to balance or spice up things and cause a world war. example, in one of my games, I went democratic Germany and France went fascist and declared on me and Italy to start a world war(hist game)

[RedStar]

It's a bit amusing that you're miffed that your historical game is going ahistorical when you have changed Germany democratic and thus haven't caused a world war.

Historical generally makes the AI follow history but it is of course dependent on what the player does. So, seeing as Germany (you) is no longer a threat, the UK has chosen to begin the decolonisation process (which it did post-war).

By getting rid of Hitler, you've acted ahistorically and the game is adapting likewise.

[铁剑]

Played another game, non-historical
Everything went almost same like historical, including a massive war with the Soviets, France and UK acted almost in the same way ...
Don't really know what is the difference between historical and not historical, they all same to end up in the same way

[bubbas]

Originally posted by 铁剑:

Don't really know what is the difference between historical and not historical, they all same to end up in the same way

Try reading the replies you get maybe ;)

Originally posted by RedStar:

It's a bit amusing that you're miffed that your historical game is going ahistorical when you have changed Germany democratic and thus haven't caused a world war.

Historical generally makes the AI follow history but it is of course dependent on what the player does. So, seeing as Germany (you) is no longer a threat, the UK has chosen to begin the decolonisation process (which it did post-war).

By getting rid of Hitler, you've acted ahistorically and the game is adapting likewise.

[铁剑]

That's why I said I see no difference
Thinking of President Woodrow Wilson and his plan for different countries to have the right of self determination, which European colonising power followed that plan?
UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands ... all of them kept their colonies. After WWII they were just pushed by the Americans to end their colonisation policies. This is why I see it not just ahistorical, it doesn't make sense to say that England disassembles its colonial empire with no external pressure ... Most of those countries took long time and fought wars against their ex-colonies for those colonies to achieve independence, look at the war of independence of Israel, look at the resistance faced by the British in India, which even took a military form in Malaysia... France was even more bloody in Algeria ...

Maybe I am just too idealistic, but I guess for the UK to just give independence to its colonies willingly, I guess it's quite far fetched ...

Originally posted by bubbas:

Originally posted by 铁剑:

Don't really know what is the difference between historical and not historical, they all same to end up in the same way

Try reading the replies you get maybe ;)

Originally posted by RedStar:

It's a bit amusing that you're miffed that your historical game is going ahistorical when you have changed Germany democratic and thus haven't caused a world war.

Historical generally makes the AI follow history but it is of course dependent on what the player does. So, seeing as Germany (you) is no longer a threat, the UK has chosen to begin the decolonisation process (which it did post-war).

By getting rid of Hitler, you've acted ahistorically and the game is adapting likewise.