Wtf has happened with this game ? Czechoslovakia refusing to join austria hungry ?

[Delicia Suprema]

Its like if austria refuses anchullus like wtf. This is essencial to advance with hungry. The devs really expect me to fight a war against Czechoslovakia and romania and win ?

Are you guys crazy ?

Btw if you didnt know, Czechoslovakia always accepted this. Or they became your puppet which is even better.

[Včelí medvídek]

No reason why it should be guaranteed.

it is not and never was.

Build up your relation and move troops to border for higher chance.

[Delicia Suprema]

Trust me they always accept. Well they did....

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Delicia Suprema:

Trust me they always accept. Well they did....

You were just lucky. it was never guranteed before. I played restoration of Austria-Hungary couple times so I know ti first hand.

[Včelí medvídek]

And just FYI even Anschluss is not guaranteed. (if not playing with historical focus path and dont mess with wt)

[Včelí medvídek]

#protect Czechoslovakia
country_event = {
id = DOD_hungary.10
title = DOD_hungary.10.t
desc = DOD_hungary.10.desc
picture = GFX_report_event_czech_soldiers_01

is_triggered_only = yes

option = { #Agree to join the Empire
name = DOD_hungary.10.a
ai_chance = {
factor = 20
modifier = {
threat > 20
factor = 2
}
modifier = {
is_in_faction = no
factor = 2
}
modifier = {
GER = {
OR = {
focus_progress = { focus = GER_demand_sudetenland progress > 0}
focus_progress = { focus = GER_end_of_czechoslovakia progress > 0}
}
}
factor = 10 #ohshitohshitohshit
}
modifier = {
is_in_faction = yes
factor = 0.5
}
}
custom_effect_tooltip = GAME_OVER_TT
HUN = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.11 hours = 6 } }

}
option = { #A close association status
name = DOD_hungary.10.b
ai_chance = {
factor = 50
modifier = {
HUN = {
is_ai = yes
}
factor = 0
}
}
HUN = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.12 hours = 6 } }
}
option = { #Refuse
name = DOD_hungary.10.c
ai_chance = {
factor = 30
modifier = {
is_in_faction = yes
factor = 2 #we're good thanks
}
modifier = {
HUN = {
is_ai = yes
}
factor = 0
}
}
HUN = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.13 hours = 6 } }
set_country_flag = HUN_AH_CZE_refused #needed for munich chain
}

}

So it is actualy 20/50/30 chance with only 20% base chance they accept full annex (prior further modifiers but if I count right the possible maximum is 76%

It is like this since DD release.

[Delicia Suprema]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

#protect Czechoslovakia
country_event = {
id = DOD_hungary.10
title = DOD_hungary.10.t
desc = DOD_hungary.10.desc
picture = GFX_report_event_czech_soldiers_01

is_triggered_only = yes

option = { #Agree to join the Empire
name = DOD_hungary.10.a
ai_chance = {
factor = 20
modifier = {
threat > 20
factor = 2
}
modifier = {
is_in_faction = no
factor = 2
}
modifier = {
GER = {
OR = {
focus_progress = { focus = GER_demand_sudetenland progress > 0}
focus_progress = { focus = GER_end_of_czechoslovakia progress > 0}
}
}
factor = 10 #ohshitohshitohshit
}
modifier = {
is_in_faction = yes
factor = 0.5
}
}
custom_effect_tooltip = GAME_OVER_TT
HUN = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.11 hours = 6 } }

}
option = { #A close association status
name = DOD_hungary.10.b
ai_chance = {
factor = 50
modifier = {
HUN = {
is_ai = yes
}
factor = 0
}
}
HUN = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.12 hours = 6 } }
}
option = { #Refuse
name = DOD_hungary.10.c
ai_chance = {
factor = 30
modifier = {
is_in_faction = yes
factor = 2 #we're good thanks
}
modifier = {
HUN = {
is_ai = yes
}
factor = 0
}
}
HUN = { country_event = { id = DOD_hungary.13 hours = 6 } }
set_country_flag = HUN_AH_CZE_refused #needed for munich chain
}

}

So it is actualy 20/50/30 chance with only 20% base chance they accept full annex (prior further modifiers but if I count right the possible maximum is 76%

It is like this since DD release.

Well, i think im very lucky then. But lets say they say no. How will i continue ?

I cant take romania because they guarantee themselves.

[Včelí medvídek]

Originally posted by Delicia Suprema:

Well, i think im very lucky then. But lets say they say no. How will i continue ?

I cant take romania because they guarantee themselves.

I will be honest - if I went for Austria Hungary and got refuse from either Austria or Czech I simply restarted the game.

Its not like it would be unplayable but as it happen quite early why make it hard for yourself..

[Delicia Suprema]

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

Originally posted by Delicia Suprema:

Well, i think im very lucky then. But lets say they say no. How will i continue ?

I cant take romania because they guarantee themselves.

I will be honest - if I went for Austria Hungary and got refuse from either Austria or Czech I simply restarted the game.

Its not like it would be unplayable but as it happen quite early why make it hard for yourself..

Thats a very bad game design. Having to restart the game due to luck.

This feel about right if going for achievments but i simple gamethrough ? No.

Thanks man.

[King of Pleasure]

Originally posted by Delicia Suprema:

Originally posted by Včelí medvídek:

I will be honest - if I went for Austria Hungary and got refuse from either Austria or Czech I simply restarted the game.

Its not like it would be unplayable but as it happen quite early why make it hard for yourself..

Thats a very bad game design. Having to restart the game due to luck.

This feel about right if going for achievments but i simple gamethrough ? No.

Thanks man.

you dont have to restart game its pretty easy to destroy czechoslovakia from start before they make division... its pretty easy to have around 98% chance of succes if you make frontline on they borders you can see a line that green or red and say -) balance weaker stronger etc, if its full green you have really huge chance of succes and if you have more than 150% of they army and full green line its practicly alltime succes. but its pretty unprofitable cause if you wanna have that huge army with equipment it will take you a while so its better to do it early and risk, thats a actual game mechanic, wait some times and be sure you will get it or rush it from early game and had huge chance it wont happend. if you wanna take them down from really big early then i can recommend you strat -) you dont have much civs so you wont have time to make factories anyway so just invest them to make forts, with forts around 3 and decent micromanagment you are able to hold with 1 division on 1 tile, with that strat you can take any ally of czechoslovakia and rush czechoslovakia till they weak, as austria hungaria you are on they weakest borders where they dont have forts so it shouldnt be that hard if you atleast decent player, you can go allin becuse after you win war you profit so much and be able to recover quickly to be ready take down germany, also your forts that you will made will be pretty usseful later on cause italy will go for greece so you need to hold somehow till you push germany. its really not hard i never managment to lose to as austriahungaria its op focus tree.
VERY GOOD TIP FOR FINAL: there is a really nice trick you can do, if you attack czechoslovakia and romania join you can just take all division and hold and make focus to puppet czechoslovakia, they really oftenly accept the offer so you will get they divisions and then you can smash romania pretty easily, also its pretty nice when czechoslovakia do alternativ focuses becuse then they could be in factions and you have even more enemies = free territory. trick is really only in snowballing till germany attack

[Delicia Suprema]

Originally posted by King of pleasure:

Originally posted by Delicia Suprema:

Thats a very bad game design. Having to restart the game due to luck.

This feel about right if going for achievments but i simple gamethrough ? No.

Thanks man.

you dont have to restart game its pretty easy to destroy czechoslovakia from start before they make division... its pretty easy to have around 98% chance of succes if you make frontline on they borders you can see a line that green or red and say -) balance weaker stronger etc, if its full green you have really huge chance of succes and if you have more than 150% of they army and full green line its practicly alltime succes. but its pretty unprofitable cause if you wanna have that huge army with equipment it will take you a while so its better to do it early and risk, thats a actual game mechanic, wait some times and be sure you will get it or rush it from early game and had huge chance it wont happend. if you wanna take them down from really big early then i can recommend you strat -) you dont have much civs so you wont have time to make factories anyway so just invest them to make forts, with forts around 3 and decent micromanagment you are able to hold with 1 division on 1 tile, with that strat you can take any ally of czechoslovakia and rush czechoslovakia till they weak, as austria hungaria you are on they weakest borders where they dont have forts so it shouldnt be that hard if you atleast decent player, you can go allin becuse after you win war you profit so much and be able to recover quickly to be ready take down germany, also your forts that you will made will be pretty usseful later on cause italy will go for greece so you need to hold somehow till you push germany. its really not hard i never managment to lose to as austriahungaria its op focus tree.
VERY GOOD TIP FOR FINAL: there is a really nice trick you can do, if you attack czechoslovakia and romania join you can just take all division and hold and make focus to puppet czechoslovakia, they really oftenly accept the offer so you will get they divisions and then you can smash romania pretty easily, also its pretty nice when czechoslovakia do alternativ focuses becuse then they could be in factions and you have even more enemies = free territory. trick is really only in snowballing till germany attack

Nah, i discovered that instead of going to war with austria and demand a referendum. The chance of getting Czechoslovakia accepting is like 99%.

Yeah, i tested it. Something might be wrong on that code.

[King of Pleasure]

Originally posted by Delicia Suprema:

Originally posted by King of pleasure:

you dont have to restart game its pretty easy to destroy czechoslovakia from start before they make division... its pretty easy to have around 98% chance of succes if you make frontline on they borders you can see a line that green or red and say -) balance weaker stronger etc, if its full green you have really huge chance of succes and if you have more than 150% of they army and full green line its practicly alltime succes. but its pretty unprofitable cause if you wanna have that huge army with equipment it will take you a while so its better to do it early and risk, thats a actual game mechanic, wait some times and be sure you will get it or rush it from early game and had huge chance it wont happend. if you wanna take them down from really big early then i can recommend you strat -) you dont have much civs so you wont have time to make factories anyway so just invest them to make forts, with forts around 3 and decent micromanagment you are able to hold with 1 division on 1 tile, with that strat you can take any ally of czechoslovakia and rush czechoslovakia till they weak, as austria hungaria you are on they weakest borders where they dont have forts so it shouldnt be that hard if you atleast decent player, you can go allin becuse after you win war you profit so much and be able to recover quickly to be ready take down germany, also your forts that you will made will be pretty usseful later on cause italy will go for greece so you need to hold somehow till you push germany. its really not hard i never managment to lose to as austriahungaria its op focus tree.
VERY GOOD TIP FOR FINAL: there is a really nice trick you can do, if you attack czechoslovakia and romania join you can just take all division and hold and make focus to puppet czechoslovakia, they really oftenly accept the offer so you will get they divisions and then you can smash romania pretty easily, also its pretty nice when czechoslovakia do alternativ focuses becuse then they could be in factions and you have even more enemies = free territory. trick is really only in snowballing till germany attack

Nah, i discovered that instead of going to war with austria and demand a referendum. The chance of getting Czechoslovakia accepting is like 99%.

Yeah, i tested it. Something might be wrong on that code.

its deppend on your army ratio.........

[Delicia Suprema]

Originally posted by King of pleasure:

Originally posted by Delicia Suprema:

Nah, i discovered that instead of going to war with austria and demand a referendum. The chance of getting Czechoslovakia accepting is like 99%.

Yeah, i tested it. Something might be wrong on that code.

its deppend on your army ratio.........

No It does not.

I didnt change my army size. All i did was to get the referendum on austria and czechoslovakia agreed.

I wasn't lucky. I always did this before. It was just last day i decided to go to war instead of a peaceful annexation.

[zz_tophat]

I had then accept once out of 6 tries.

[Trev]

little tip, make 100+ single battalion divisions, the ai counts your divisions (but not total deployed manpower) so it will be more likely to submit (increasing relations is a must too)