No ai airbourne attacks.

[Cheap Charlie]

Why does the ai never use airbourne attacks?

[CloudSeeker]

Because it is to complex to code maybe. If you think the AI is brain dead now just think about how it will be when it will try and use paratroopers everywhere.

[Astra Militarum]

Try picturing how annoying that would be.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Astra Militarum:

Try picturing how annoying that would be.

As soon as the AI gets air superiority. Paratroopers. Paratroopers on every single square. Just think how fast you can remove their manpower. How much equipment you can capture.

[RoastCoffee]

I think HOI4 using paratroopers might be going a bridge too far.

[Astra Militarum]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Originally posted by Astra Militarum:

Try picturing how annoying that would be.

As soon as the AI gets air superiority. Paratroopers. Paratroopers on every single square. Just think how fast you can remove their manpower. How much equipment you can capture.

Same can be said about infinite naval invasions, they were mostly non effective but still annoying

[GoldenTalon]

Devs too lazy to program it I suppose.

[Oubley]

Do you as a player user paratroopers? Since the AI doesn't use them I kind of decided I was not going to use them either. Heavens forbid I ever play a mp game though, I probably wouldn't know what to do with all the para drops against me.

[MushyNed]

Originally posted by Oubley:

Do you as a player user paratroopers? Since the AI doesn't use them I kind of decided I was not going to use them either. Heavens forbid I ever play a mp game though, I probably wouldn't know what to do with all the para drops against me.

Paratroopers are extremely powerfull you should try it. Helps with encirclements, breakthroughs, and by dropping on victory points you can capitulate countries in seconds

[Yankee Axe]

Hitler used paratroopers once.




















ONCE

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by Drew Dubious:

Hitler used paratroopers once.




















ONCE

Incorrect. The Fallschirmjäger proved their importance in the battle of Crete. They took Norway. They was used to take over airfields in Poland. They were used to take Fort Eben-Emael in Belgium. They were used in Greece. They were used in the invasion of the Soviet Union. The German Paratroopers was used in pretty much all theaters the Germans were involved in.

The Germans didn't use them as much as for example the USA or UK did because Hitler saw it as a waste of human lives due to the high casualties. The USA looked at the losses and said "I can deal with this" and then gave out blood money to their paratroopers.

[Operation Iraqi Freikorps]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Originally posted by Drew Dubious:

Hitler used paratroopers once.




















ONCE

Incorrect. The Fallschirmjäger proved their importance in the battle of Crete. They took Norway. They was used to take over airfields in Poland. They were used to take Fort Eben-Emael in Belgium. They were used in Greece. They were used in the invasion of the Soviet Union. The German Paratroopers was used in pretty much all theaters the Germans were involved in.

The Germans didn't use them as much as for example the USA or UK did because Hitler saw it as a waste of human lives due to the high casualties. The USA looked at the losses and said "I can deal with this" and then gave out blood money to their paratroopers.

A good chunk of losses at Crete were due to a lack of proper equipment. Weapons were stowed in canisters that left the plane st the same time as the men, so they only had pistols, knives, and grenades until they found the canisters, some of which were covered with machine guns by the defenders. The U.S. took the time to develop equipment suited for airborne use by the time they employed mass air drops. The fg42 was developed until after Germany was done with mass drops.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by 95thNY Co.ATeegardin21:

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Incorrect. The Fallschirmjäger proved their importance in the battle of Crete. They took Norway. They was used to take over airfields in Poland. They were used to take Fort Eben-Emael in Belgium. They were used in Greece. They were used in the invasion of the Soviet Union. The German Paratroopers was used in pretty much all theaters the Germans were involved in.

The Germans didn't use them as much as for example the USA or UK did because Hitler saw it as a waste of human lives due to the high casualties. The USA looked at the losses and said "I can deal with this" and then gave out blood money to their paratroopers.

A good chunk of losses at Crete were due to a lack of proper equipment. Weapons were stowed in canisters that left the plane st the same time as the men, so they only had pistols, knives, and grenades until they found the canisters, some of which were covered with machine guns by the defenders. The U.S. took the time to develop equipment suited for airborne use by the time they employed mass air drops. The fg42 was developed until after Germany was done with mass drops.

Doesn't really matter. A dead soldier is a lot of money and time wasted. Allied soldiers were very much lacking in equipment on D-Day as well. Still that doesn't change Paratroopers had huge amount of casualties and it wasn't something Germany wanted to deal with, while the allies was.
I also want to point out that during the jump on D-Day the allies came up with some kind of leg thing. You put your equipment into it and then jump. Only problem was that it flow off during the jump and now you only had a knife. That is what happened to Lynn Davis Compton (Buck Compton) in the 101st Airborne during D-Day. I do not find it very fair to compare late war Paratroopers with early war Paratroopers because at that point German was on the losing side instead of the winning side.

Also. The statement that Hitler only used Paratroopers once is objectively incorrect. They were used several times which was the point. Nazi Germany wrote the book on Paratroopers for a reason.

[Operation Iraqi Freikorps]

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Doesn't really matter. A dead soldier is a lot of money and time wasted. Allied soldiers were very much lacking in equipment on D-Day as well. Still that doesn't change Paratroopers had huge amount of casualties and it wasn't something Germany wanted to deal with, while the allies was.
I also want to point out that during the jump on D-Day the allies came up with some kind of leg thing. You put your equipment into it and then jump. Only problem was that it flow off during the jump and now you only had a knife. That is what happened to Lynn Davis Compton (Buck Compton) in the 101st Airborne during D-Day. I do not find it very fair to compare late war Paratroopers with early war Paratroopers because at that point German was on the losing side instead of the winning side.

Also. The statement that Hitler only used Paratroopers once is objectively incorrect. They were used several times which was the point. Nazi Germany wrote the book on Paratroopers for a reason.

Still, the Aliies managed to refine their equipment and made soldiers generally have their rifles available upon landing, and even if part of the unit had lost their leg luggage there were still armed paratroopers in the unit. German equipment would be isolated from the paratroopers and had to be found after landing.
Germany did make effective use of them early war, but Crete was a very bloody affair for them.

[CloudSeeker]

Originally posted by 95thNY Co.ATeegardin21:

Originally posted by CloudSeeker:

Doesn't really matter. A dead soldier is a lot of money and time wasted. Allied soldiers were very much lacking in equipment on D-Day as well. Still that doesn't change Paratroopers had huge amount of casualties and it wasn't something Germany wanted to deal with, while the allies was.
I also want to point out that during the jump on D-Day the allies came up with some kind of leg thing. You put your equipment into it and then jump. Only problem was that it flow off during the jump and now you only had a knife. That is what happened to Lynn Davis Compton (Buck Compton) in the 101st Airborne during D-Day. I do not find it very fair to compare late war Paratroopers with early war Paratroopers because at that point German was on the losing side instead of the winning side.

Also. The statement that Hitler only used Paratroopers once is objectively incorrect. They were used several times which was the point. Nazi Germany wrote the book on Paratroopers for a reason.

Still, the Aliies managed to refine their equipment and made soldiers generally have their rifles available upon landing, and even if part of the unit had lost their leg luggage there were still armed paratroopers in the unit. German equipment would be isolated from the paratroopers and had to be found after landing.
Germany did make effective use of them early war, but Crete was a very bloody affair for them.

Do you not see that you are missing the point? Did it go woosh over your head?

[GoldenTalon]

Modeling the various levels of airborne troops would be nice. However, OP's point is that the AI doesn't use them which is a major flaw - but not the worst offense for sure given all the other AI issues.