Hearts of Iron IV

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SirSanity May 13, 2018 @ 11:38pm
I wanna play US but not interested in isolationism.
I know I can go fascist, but fighting civil wars, well at this moment in time I can't be bothered to do that. Can I go fascist US without civil war?
Originally posted by Mack:
Yes you can. Just get Facism support high enough and then you'll get a referendum decision which flips you without a civil war.

Note: Don't do the "Reaffirm Monroe Doctrine" side of the Focus Tree until after you've flipped. Once you've flipped go down that tree until you get to the pre-emptive intervention focus, that gives you a war goal on Chile I believe.

Declare on them but don't bother attacking. They can't do anything to you anyway, but staying at war lets you avoid all the interventionist stuff.
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Tocharius May 14, 2018 @ 6:59am 
Originally posted by SirSanity:
I know I can go fascist, but fighting civil wars, well at this moment in time I can't be bothered to do that. Can I go fascist US without civil war?

To change one's ideology without a revolution, appoint a fascist demigogue, then go into the special decisions panel and, for 75 political power points, click Open Up Political Discourse. After that you have to wait until the government has more than 50% fascists. If you want to speed up the process, you can spend poli. power pts. to expand party support and smear the current goverenment. Then soon enough you go back to the decisions panel and, for 100 poli. power pts, choose Hold A Referendem. Then presto! - you are as fascist as the Devil himself (nothing to be proud of).

I just wish the game had more fun options for the USA - something they could do with the election system perhaps, and make it unique for the USA. I mean, for instance, recently they added the excellent option for Germany of opposing Sauron I mean Hitler (and then you can re-instate the Kaiser or, through democracy, reverse the WWI braindrain - beautiful!). Why not for America have alternate socialist paths, ones that challenge the authoritarian view of socialism of Stalin and his ilk?

You know, instead of Fascist you can go Communist - that will give you much the same power over your civics and ability to justify wars. And you don't have to be Communist in the sense of Stalin, nor join the Comintern. Think of it as a temporary "war powers act" just to get friends with Stalin so he will let Patton put his tanks in Poland (to attack the vile Reich) - and Omar Bradely (or good ole' Patch) put troops in Sibera (to attack Manchuria and Japan).

If you could be Democratic and get Stalin to like you enough to put troops in his terratory, then you could take over the world! If you stay democratic and take out all fascists and all the Comintern, and make the whole world Democracy - not just through war but also through spending poli. powers pts...

ONE OF THE KEYS TO VICTORY IS ***POLITICAL POWER POINTS***. :)
Last edited by Tocharius; May 14, 2018 @ 7:06am
HadalAbyss May 14, 2018 @ 5:04pm 
yeah i agree strategicus america is extremely boring if you don't have road to 56 which got destroyed with 1.5 it seems or kaiserreich where they might just be the most interesting country in the game
OldSchoolKicksAss May 14, 2018 @ 7:21pm 
Originally posted by Chibo:
Fasict usa is for people who can't play the game
It's true
SirSanity May 14, 2018 @ 7:25pm 
Originally posted by OldSchoolKicksAss:
Originally posted by Chibo:
Fasict usa is for people who can't play the game
It's true
or maybe the people above who says maybe I just wanna ♥♥♥ about as an op nation is what I'm thinking and not that I can't play the game. mmmmm its a game I don't have to play 100% seriousness all the time, if you don't mess around at all in games then you sound fun guys.
Viksteri May 15, 2018 @ 12:40am 
Kaiserreich is the answer. They will bend the knee or I destroy them
Tocharius May 15, 2018 @ 1:53am 
Yes! And maybe *they* don't know how to play. Actually, I don't think there is any one special way to play this game. It's a sandbox game - it's making your own story. You can think of it as all bout strategy, but it's far more than that. Political power is extremely important - but the United States certainly does not have much of that at the beginning of the game - such a little amount that you certainly don't feel like you're playing an OP nation.
Martian Patriot Nov 8, 2018 @ 9:17pm 
I have Facist support around ~80% but didn't get an option for a referendum. Instead I had to choose sides on the civil war and despite the Facists having a massive majority I only started with virginia, texas, and 13 divisions of the ~50...RIP....
SirSanity Nov 9, 2018 @ 6:38am 
Originally posted by SupremeLeaderPie:
Originally posted by Chibo:
Fasict usa is for people who can't play the game


Originally posted by EmperorPrince:
Stop being a b**ch and just do Isolationism

you both are absolute morons and should be ashamed. ♥♥♥♥ yall. Let op play the game how he wants to be played

HURRR DUUUURRRRR SOME RANDOM DUDE ON THE INTERNET DOESNT PLAY THE GAME THE SAME WAY I PLAY HURRRRRR DUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRR HOW WILL I COPPPPEEEEE???????

Grow the ♥♥♥♥ up and let people enjoy the game how they want to. i swear to god the amount of fanboys who act like this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ absurd.

Op please play the game in anyway you see fit, if it is fun for you to make only super heavy tank divisions DO IT. whatever makes this game better for you. ignore the haters and enjoy your time taking over the world.
Since I made this, tbh I don't mind isolationism I have grown to enjoy the USA playstyle, the fact that even though until often 1940 onwards they are still down, they become an op powerhouse of resources and manufacturing once they're out of the great depression.

I agree with what you said to those two, they get salty that people don't do stuff their way.
KriegerKR Nov 9, 2018 @ 7:33am 
Originally posted by SirSanity:
Originally posted by SupremeLeaderPie:




you both are absolute morons and should be ashamed. ♥♥♥♥ yall. Let op play the game how he wants to be played

HURRR DUUUURRRRR SOME RANDOM DUDE ON THE INTERNET DOESNT PLAY THE GAME THE SAME WAY I PLAY HURRRRRR DUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRR HOW WILL I COPPPPEEEEE???????

Grow the ♥♥♥♥ up and let people enjoy the game how they want to. i swear to god the amount of fanboys who act like this is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ absurd.

Op please play the game in anyway you see fit, if it is fun for you to make only super heavy tank divisions DO IT. whatever makes this game better for you. ignore the haters and enjoy your time taking over the world.
Since I made this, tbh I don't mind isolationism I have grown to enjoy the USA playstyle, the fact that even though until often 1940 onwards they are still down, they become an op powerhouse of resources and manufacturing once they're out of the great depression.

I agree with what you said to those two, they get salty that people don't do stuff their way.

You might want to do the monroe doctrine before you switch unlike the answer you selected. I believe democratic USA gets a wargoal on Venezuela, which is a better country to annex than Chile.

Countries getting democratic support from you doesn't matter, because chances are you'll annex them anyway.
Last edited by KriegerKR; Nov 9, 2018 @ 7:34am
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