Pact of Steel or Italy First

[coffeemm8]

Which path do you prefer to go down when playing Italy?

[Monki]

Depends on play style

[Ertu Invictus]

Italy first ofc. More convenient for when il duce inevitably comes to his senses and attack ze reich when they are bogged down in russia. Imperium romanum did contain some of what is hitlers, and that must be restored by the most ♥♥♥♥ move possible =)

[KriegerKR]

You can disband your faction and join axis after taking Italy first if you really want Germany's help, so I always go Italy first.

[PuttBlug]

Originally posted by coffeelingfine:

Which path do you prefer to go down when playing Italy?

It depends on whether you prefer to have your own faction or a research bonus.

[|H|H| Fr3ddi3]

Historical, You can get all the bonuses that Pact of Steel offers, without actually accepting the offer to join the Axis (the offer never runs out). You get a stronger millitary and refineries out of it ( I have never seen Germany deny the focus requests).

You do not get those from Italy first, in fact the only things which Italy first has which cannot be obtained though spending a bit of PP, is Your own faction and countries to join it, and possibly the Baleric Islands from Franco. You don't need your own faction to go it alone and truth be told, AI alliances tend to be Liabilities, conquer Bulgaria and Puppet them if you want actual allies worth a damn as you can directly control their units.