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Arquebusier May 5, 2020 @ 5:07am
Are paratroopers completely broken now?
Do not ask me if i done everything right because i did. Air superiority is total, plenty of transport planes, everything is in order. They just don't focking move. I have 400+ hours in hoi 4 and i know how to use damn paratroopers. So, is it broken as for now or maybe there is some new hidden parameter behind?
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salamander_svk May 5, 2020 @ 5:23am 
Paratroopers still work, don;t worry about that. Just used them yesterday.

But they do get stuck sometimes. I usually delete order and entire transporter wing and create a new one, maybe that could help.
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Arquebusier May 5, 2020 @ 5:27am 
Allright, i think i got it. The problem is if your transport air wing is waiting for reinfrocements it won't launch an assault. Stupid and simple, and still makes no sense
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bri May 5, 2020 @ 10:37am 
Originally posted by Praetorian:
Allright, i think i got it. The problem is if your transport air wing is waiting for reinfrocements it won't launch an assault. Stupid and simple, and still makes no sense

Uhm, how does it not make sense that an element of the attack waiting on reinforcements marks the entire campaign with the "some units not prepared" flag? Awaiting reinforcememnts means they aren't prepared...
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Stoker182 May 5, 2020 @ 10:47am 
Originally posted by Praetorian:
Allright, i think i got it. The problem is if your transport air wing is waiting for reinfrocements it won't launch an assault. Stupid and simple, and still makes no sense

It makes no sense? You gave the order to reinforce! You are responsible and no one else.
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Arquebusier May 5, 2020 @ 11:29am 
Originally posted by bri:
Originally posted by Praetorian:
Allright, i think i got it. The problem is if your transport air wing is waiting for reinfrocements it won't launch an assault. Stupid and simple, and still makes no sense

Uhm, how does it not make sense that an element of the attack waiting on reinforcements marks the entire campaign with the "some units not prepared" flag? Awaiting reinforcememnts means they aren't prepared...
No it doesn't. Air wings are always understrengthed and it does not stop them from doing their air missions, except for transports as i found out. There are absolutely no indicators of something being wrong. An the worst of all, it worked before. I always used to put my transport wings at 500 capacity so that they will get more and more planes with time. I have never had more than 200 transport planes, but all of the wings were caped at 500. And they did their job, and now, all of a sudden, there is a new condition for them to be full-strenghted in order to transport paratroopers.
Last edited by Arquebusier; May 5, 2020 @ 11:30am
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Maximus May 5, 2020 @ 12:37pm 
paratroopers need to be on an airfield that has transport planes. if these planes moved or you changed the troop location, it normally doesnt work
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Chthonic Guardian May 5, 2020 @ 3:30pm 
The one game I used them, they would only do the mission about 50% of time, so I just stick with Marines for my SF now.

And yes, they were at airfield with Transport planes, had valid template and nothing it divisions that couldn't paradrop. They just sometimes wouldn't go.
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Maximus May 5, 2020 @ 4:43pm 
Originally posted by Chthonic Guardian:
The one game I used them, they would only do the mission about 50% of time, so I just stick with Marines for my SF now.

And yes, they were at airfield with Transport planes, had valid template and nothing it divisions that couldn't paradrop. They just sometimes wouldn't go.
its possible you didnt have 75% air supority for a split second when the enemy brought in a bunch of fighters at once, or your allies pulled planes back.
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DarkSabre88 May 13, 2020 @ 6:41am 
It 13/5/2020 and the Airborne Paratroopers dont work. Just now i was trying to invade Italy as Germany (lol dont believe in allies) it did it once, i use paratroops to invade Greece worked fine but when i tryed to invade scilly it didn't work, i changed the order to jump in Rome as it was unguarded, didn't work again. This has been happening for along time back before Waking The Tiger DLC. So why is it still not working???.
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S2 May 13, 2020 @ 7:51am 
Can have many reasons:

-lack of air superiority
-some divisions not in place yet
-you forgot some tiny frontline somewhere
-your transport planes are on supply duty
-you have wrong template (battaillon that cannot parachute amonst paratroopers)
-your paratroopers are not exactly at the same place as your airport/transport planes

If that doesnt work temporarily assign your paratroopers to another general so that your paratrooper general goes to reserve, then repeat all necessary steps. this should reset any real bugs.
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Stoker182 May 13, 2020 @ 10:51am 
Originally posted by S2:
Can have many reasons:

-lack of air superiority
-some divisions not in place yet
-you forgot some tiny frontline somewhere
-your transport planes are on supply duty
-you have wrong template (battaillon that cannot parachute amonst paratroopers)
-your paratroopers are not exactly at the same place as your airport/transport planes

Yeah, good points

If that doesnt work temporarily assign your paratroopers to another general so that your paratrooper general goes to reserve, then repeat all necessary steps. this should reset any real bugs.

I used paratroopers since the beginning of HOI4. I never met any bugs; never.
- I use paras only for dropping, they will not be assigned to anyting else and those divisions form their own army with only paras in it.
- Same for the transports; that wing has only one task: dropping, nothing else.
With those settings, mostly all "mistakes" can be avoided.

Only issue is the big direction-arrow ( pointing form the start-airbase to the enemy-target-province) which will not always disappear after dropping. So I have to delete this maually.


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Chthonic Guardian May 13, 2020 @ 11:59am 
They work sometimes, and sometimes they don't. So yes, they are broken.
I stopped using them for this reason. Marines always work.
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Stoker182 May 13, 2020 @ 12:44pm 
Originally posted by Chthonic Guardian:
They work sometimes, and sometimes they don't. So yes, they are broken.

If you strictly pay attention the rules they always worked fine...they are not "broken".
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Chthonic Guardian May 13, 2020 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by Stoker182:
Originally posted by Chthonic Guardian:
They work sometimes, and sometimes they don't. So yes, they are broken.

If you strictly pay attention the rules they always worked fine...they are not "broken".
Maybe. I won't rule it out.
The final straw for me was needing to get them across the map and having to do 2 drops to get to their destination. The first drop went fine and I stationed more transports at that airfield to use for second drop. Set up mission and everything checked out fine. But they never went. NEVER. The troops I sent to walk got there and the paratroopers were still not executing.
I triple checked everything, yes they are assigned to order, nothing wrong with the division where it has anything in it that can't drop, transports are in place at airfield and ready etc.
So I don't know if it was me or just some unknown level of babysitting that they needed (maybe they need a 3 month nap after each drop. Maybe the general didn't give them enough hugs etc.), but I never used them again.
Last edited by Chthonic Guardian; May 13, 2020 @ 12:52pm
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Stoker182 May 13, 2020 @ 1:04pm 
Ok, only 3 points:
Air superiority ?
Exclusive army only for para-divisions ?
Deleted manually ( right-click in the trash-can ) every order given to members of that army, before adding the second jump?
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