Ship upgrading / refitting

[neoghoul]

Am I missing something. In my game as Mexico for the first few hours I could upgrade a design. But now, I can only save the design, as it was prior to the new update. I bought the dlc explicitly for THIS purpose.
Can someone give me an explanation?
Yes, I upgrade an old hull( 1936 to upgraded 1936)

[Mikey]

there is a button on the task force panel for refit. Select the ships you want to refit and they will detach

[neoghoul]

Originally posted by Mikey:

there is a button on the task force panel for refit. Select the ships you want to refit and they will detach

Yes, I know that. You see this isn't the problem. I CANNOT UPGRADE my ships. They are handled as if they are a completely new ship design.
When you go on clicking 'create variant' there is in the lower right corner a grey 'upgrade' button, but no matter what I change in my old design, it becomes 'save' , NOT 'upgrade'.

And this is why I cannot refit my ships. I know, how this is done, because, as I said, I did it before. I just do not know why it doesn't work anymore. Oh, and btw it doesn't work for other countries as well.

[D3st]

ive the same problem when i create variant and can't refit old ship.

[Mikey]

Are you selecting the ship or ships you want to refit?

[Raucher]

You can only upgrade a ship, if you have created a new variant from the old design. Do not use the duplicate button!

[LaconicDev]

Same problem here. Directly editing a design without hitting duplicate and not changing armor and weapon class, just to be sure. Sometimes i can upgrade afterwards.... sometimes i can't. Am i missing anything?

[LaconicDev]

Funnily, the design the upgraded version is based on is actually shown as outdated. Still, i can't upgrade the old ship.

[Raucher]

Mmmmmhhh... maybe Dockyard related?

[Jam292]

to refit a ship it has to be ported. hit the refit button in the task force display once your ship is selected, pick your variant to refit to. it will be added to your naval queue, if you have no dockyards available it will not progress. also while a ship is being refitted it may be captured by the enemy if the port is at is overrun.

[neoghoul]

Originally posted by Raucher:

You can only upgrade a ship, if you have created a new variant from the old design. Do not use the duplicate button!

I know the basics. :/ Can't understand when and why it works and when it won't. I would be happy to understand the WHY; I do not need to understand why the mechanic is in place, as random as it may seem.
It just makes no sense to me, why I cannot replace AA I with AA II without designing a whole new ship. I thought this is what the DLC is all about.

[LaconicDev]

We know how the mechanic works.... its just that it doesnt sometimes. I just modified two designs and now i can upgrade one design, but cant upgrade ships with the other. They are in the same fleet. i modified both the same way. Just added AA guns in one slot. Same procedure for both... different outcome... this seems bugged.

[neoghoul]

Originally posted by Helmuth von Moltke:

We know how the mechanic works.... its just that it doesnt sometimes. I just modified two designs and now i can upgrade one design, but cant upgrade ships with the other. They are in the same fleet. i modified both the same way. Just added AA guns in one slot. Same procedure for both... different outcome... this seems bugged.

Well, that just sucks hairy balls.
Rather than being happy about the DLC, I start to loath the mechanic that I was looking forward to.

[LaconicDev]

Ok. Bugged for sure. I added more designs with simple changes to the class that couldn't be upgraded. Then the upgrade button appeared and suddenly i could upgrade it to all previous designs (for which the button did not apper).

[MadGAD]

Could we upgrade captured\granted ships?

[Random]

double click the ship type in the fleet list (eg all destroyers) and then click the upgrade button in the fleet and then check the out of date models to show all destroyer variants to change to. doesn't need to be a variant of that particular variant just needs to have the same hull rank.

so you cant retro fit a 1934 destroyer to a 1936 destroyer 2 variant.

It is only used to retrofit better modules onto your existing fleet hulls, like adding radar for most nations as the tech comes after your initial fleet. (yes you can put 1944 weapons on a 1934 hull, its just dumb...)